Boxing has to do something drastic to fend off MMA.

[Machine Gunz]

where are you from?

are you an aussie?

in canberra at the am tourneys the hall is usually packed

Go to any amateur card on a sunday in Melbourne, and you'll see the joint is packed, no doubt about it

[Left Hook Tua]

Boxing will always be around and will always be popular, the history of this sport is very rich. Go to any gym and you'll see the gym full. Boxing is all about skill - technique, good stance, footwork, hand-eye co-ordination, head movement, throwing fluid combo's. MMA on the other hand is just some wild brawl ****, throwing wild looping "strikes" and hope they land, 2 full grown men wrestling on the mat, which looks very disturbing. throw an MMA "striker" in the ring with 16 oz gloves and see how he goes standing up with no wrestling against a boxer-puncher. on the other hand, throw a boxer-puncher (say, a kessler, who throws quick hard accurate punches) in the cage with those tiny gloves and see how the "striker" goes.. He could try take the boxer-puncher down but would get KTFO trying to step in a close and "shoot"

yeah because there's no skill involved in mma.....

boxers are better skilled boxing.

that doesn't mean mma guys have no skill.

they're mostly wrestlers and brazilian jiu-jitsu guys that's why they're not that good at boxing.

mma is not bar room brawl like as it used to be 15 years ago.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Go to any amateur card on a sunday in Melbourne, and you'll see the joint is packed, no doubt about it

exactly, i dunno if this guy is in OZ but he mentioned hogs breath so he must be

[Dick-Sucker]

MMA bores the fck out of me.

And its not like i haven't tried to like it. I have put myself through countless hours.

Its like watching crappy street fighters. They punch and then they wrestle.

Boring!

[KostyaTszyu44]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqf42bsTXnY

yeah what skilled fighters the UFC has.....

looks like hes ****in trying to bowl in cricket haha i would get told to go home if i threw one of them at the gym

[Left Hook Tua]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqf42bsTXnY

yeah what skilled fighters the UFC has.....

looks like hes ****in trying to bowl in cricket haha i would get told to go home if i threw one of them at the gym

what do you expect he's a kenpo karate guy?

like i said the skills are different.

if you don't like it then don't watch it.

don't make fun of guys because they can't box if they're NOT boxers.

a guy has been wrestling since high school. wrestles in college and tries out for a national team. he has skills it's just wrestling skills.

same thing for a guy training in jiu-jitsu for a decade trying to get a black belt. he has skills it's just brazilian jiu-jitsu skills.

you take a well skilled boxer and tell him to do judo and he looks funny you're gonna say he has no skill? he has skills it's just not in judo.

[Machine Gunz]

yeah because there's no skill involved in mma.....

boxers are better skilled boxing.

that doesn't mean mma guys have no skill.

they're mostly wrestlers and brazilian jiu-jitsu guys that's why they're not that good at boxing.

mma is not bar room brawl like as it used to be 15 years ago.

i should have pointed that out, yes alot of those guys do have skill, they have muay thai, kickboxing, jui jitsu backgrounds, but when ive watched ufc they point out before the brawl that fighter A is trained in kickboxing, fighter B is trained jui jitsu, then the brawl starts and hardly any of their skills come into play, they start throwing wild strikes, or end up wrestling on the mat trying "mount" their opponent, which looks very distressing. it doesnt matter what they're trained in, the **** still turns into a wild brawl.

[Left Hook Tua]

i should have pointed that out, yes alot of those guys do have skill, they have muay thai, kickboxing, jui jitsu backgrounds, but when ive watched ufc they point out before the brawl that fighter A is trained in kickboxing, fighter B is trained jui jitsu, then the brawl starts and hardly any of their skills come into play, they start throwing wild strikes, or end up wrestling on the mat trying "mount" their opponent, which looks very distressing. it doesnt matter what they're trained in, the **** still turns into a wild brawl.

and boxing doesn't turn into wild brawls?

it happens.

just like in boxing , in mma there'll be technical fights and brawl fights.

if you're not into the ground game then it'll just look like rolling around on the floor.

i never got serious into wrestling or jiu-jitsu but i had a friend who was all-city wrestler in high school and i would roll on the mat with his other wrestler friends and a few purple and blue belt jiu-jitsu guys he knows , there is a lot of skills involved in grappling.

i watch boxing for striking for mma i like to watch the grappling. striking in mma is boring to me. i'm the guy that wants to see the fighters go to the ground.

[twanky1]

Im on the NSW mid north coast. Ive been to about 7 am tourneys and 1 pro one. They are usually half empty. I even saw Sakio Bika fight and most of the audience did not know who he was.

Ive seen a Martial arts fight night too, that place was packed.

Ya can you beleive that **** about the hogs breath though? omg....

[sunthunder]

Boxing will always be around and will always be popular, the history of this sport is very rich. Go to any gym and you'll see the gym full. Boxing is all about skill - technique, good stance, footwork, hand-eye co-ordination, head movement, throwing fluid combo's. MMA on the other hand is just some wild brawl ****, throwing wild looping "strikes" and hope they land, 2 full grown men wrestling on the mat, which looks very disturbing. throw an MMA "striker" in the ring with 16 oz gloves and see how he goes standing up with no wrestling against a boxer-puncher. on the other hand, throw a boxer-puncher (say, a kessler, who throws quick hard accurate punches) in the cage with those tiny gloves and see how the "striker" goes.. He could try take the boxer-puncher down but would get KTFO trying to step in a close and "shoot"

David Haye did an interview in a UK MMA magazine recently and gave his thoughts on the differences in striking styles between MMA and boxing, and defending takedowns as a boxer:

"A traditional boxer can't get off with the same punches he'd be able to throw in a boxing match. You have to consider getting hit with fists, legs and takedowns. Balence-wise, and in terms of leverage, the two styles of punching are completely different. In MMA, you're always moving and changing angles to avoid shots, clinches and takedowns. That automatically takes away the balence and the moment to set you'd need as a boxer"

"Unless you adapt to the kind of stand-up needed in MMA, you'll get taken down as soon as you set your feet up to throw a big shot. A boxer wouldn't be as effective punching wise in an MMA contest as he would be in a boxing ring. A lot of boxers don't realise that and think they can just turn up and bomb the MMA guy out. While there's always a chance of that happening, it's only a slim chance."

"I'd sometimes play games with MMA guys down the gym where I'd attempt to get off a clean shot before they could take me down. They would usually take me down eight times out of ten. I'd land my shot only twice in ten attempts. As I've practiced over the years I've now reversed that ratio and am able to get my punches off around eight times out of ten. It's taken me over six years to eventually be able to achieve that."

(On a potential MMA fighting stance) "(it would be) completely different to the way I box as a pro boxer. It would resemble more of a kick-boxer's stance and there'd be less emphasis on getting heavy on the front leg".

So, bottom line, you can't be as effective in MMA with an orthodox boxing stance.

And, imo you tend to see more wild brawls in MMA because MMA hasn't attracted as many great pure athletes as it one day will. Great pure athletes in MMA are guys like GSP who have been training a variety of arts since they were very young. We haven't really seen an athlete in MMA like GSP go up against another athlete of similar abilities. MMA as an art form is still being refined. As more and more kids train from a young age specifically for MMA, the skill level displayed in fights will go up.