Kostya Tszyu is an ATG???

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  • Boofdatruth
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    #51
    Originally posted by blackirish137
    I kind of think ATGs should be limited to those that have a strong argument for being top 25 all time. so...not many guys are going to be considered ATGs to me.

    so Kostya isnt really an ATG. great fighter though. I always thought he would have had a great chance at beating Mosley.
    I don't think he would've beat a prime Mosley.

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    • Scott9945
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      #52
      There may no more vague term than "all time great". That's why I don't answer those questions. If going to the boxing HOF make you one, then KT is an ATG.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        how the **** did floyd fight 5 weight classes above his natural weight?

        the highest he fought was 154. even if floyd was a natural 130......154 is ONLY 4 DIVISIONS above , genius.

        what floyd is a natural 126 featherweight now?

        i'm done. last post on your trolling thread.
        Are you hurt or mad.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Boofdatruth
          I don't think he would've beat a prime Mosley.
          I dunno, Vernon Forrest really beat up on Mosley, and Forrest and Tsyzu had similiar styles. Kostya had great timing, and generally did really good against undisciplined speedy guys.
          I think he wouldve had a good chance.

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          • Flawless
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boofdatruth
            I don't think he would've beat a prime Mosley.
            No chance against a prime Mosley

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              #56
              Originally posted by blackirish137
              I dunno, Vernon Forrest really beat up on Mosley, and Forrest and Tsyzu had similiar styles. Kostya had great timing, and generally did really good against undisciplined speedy guys.
              I think he wouldve had a good chance.
              I agree. I think Tzsyu would have had too much for Shane.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Boofdatruth
                Hatton got very little credit for beating Kostya in my book. I don't knock a man's learning experience. It is when you are under fire is where I judge you. Kostya lost, ok cool, fighters lose. Why no rematch with Phillips? That is my head scratcher.
                Because Lewis knew he would lose again , its why they never fought Judah again also , this is not just opinion it has been said by Lewis to people I know that trained in that gym , they are genuine guys and not bull****ters .

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Flawless
                  Are you hurt or mad.
                  you can't make me mad you're dissing kostya not me.

                  you can't hurt me over the internet.

                  your points and arguments are annoying. you're cool to joke around with online but when you try to talk serious...... i don't know about you.

                  you're my bud so i'll assume you're trolling for fun and not really as idiotic as you post.

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                  • Boofdatruth
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    Because Lewis knew he would lose again , its why they never fought Judah again also , this is not just opinion it has been said by Lewis to people I know that trained in that gym , they are genuine guys and not bull****ters .
                    He cold ****ed judah, and I rooted for Judah. I believe the fight should've continued, but I believe kostya would've finished Judah. Kostya mightv'e had Judah's number.

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                    • Boofdatruth
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      I dunno, Vernon Forrest really beat up on Mosley, and Forrest and Tsyzu had similiar styles. Kostya had great timing, and generally did really good against undisciplined speedy guys.
                      I think he wouldve had a good chance.
                      It would be a great fight, but Kostya beating Forrest in the amateurs doesn't transfer to the pro's. Forrest had great ability and would be a problem for Kostya and Shane imo. Kostya had fast hands and fast combos. Kostya was more Shane's size infact probably smaller. Shane had problems with Forrest who basically was 2 division higher and had physical advantages. Kostya would not be able to hurt Shane, and Shane in his prime, the way he fought forrest in the rematch showed me he had what it takes to stop kostya if they ever fought. Shane is a greater fighter than Kostya, and neither are ATG's.

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