Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[Boofdatruth]

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[-MAKAVELLI-]

since we're talkin about pound for pound;


who would win if PAC was 6'1 and a solid 168-175 against Joe C?

[Boofdatruth]

I just dont understand how anyone can have Calzaghe as #1 p4p over Pacquiao citing strength of resume and 0 losses as the basis. They talk about Pacquiao facing shot fighters but Calzaghe won his title from a shot Eubank who was on the brink of retirement then spent the following decade defending against a long list of nobodies when there were plenty of great fights that could've been made.

Roy Jones Jr
Felix Trinidad
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Winky Wright

Not 1 fight against any of them in that timespan

It wasnt until Calzaghe beat Lacy and Kessler did he receive worldwide recognition. Both conveniently had similar brawler styles tailor made for Calzaghe's counterpunching styles.

Eubank was shot yet Pac is given props for beating Barrera and Morales because they weren't shot, but past their prime lol. I can't go by fights NOT being made. What about Valero and Guzman. You guys still using that, "there was no money in those fights at 130" excuse??? lol. The man fought the big 3...7 times lol.

[Boofdatruth]

since we're talkin about pound for pound;


who would win if PAC was 6'1 and a solid 168-175 against Joe C?

Cal, he has never been stopped. He has more skills than PAc. PAc would try to land a lucky big left hand, and get schooled.

[them_apples]

Eubank was shot yet Pac is given props for beating Barrera and Morales because they weren't shot, but past their prime lol. I can't go by fights NOT being made. What about Valero and Guzman. You guys still using that, "there was no money in those fights at 130" excuse??? lol. The man fought the big 3...7 times lol.

the same Barrera that beat Hamed. Barrera was in his Prime and Pacquiao was green, Pacquiao beat him up. Pacquiao has only hit his Prime just now.

[Tha_Greatest]

You made a list of undefeated fighters that are my top 10 pfp?????? You made a list????. You have some sort of weirdo complex that is weird in ever way lol. You are a happy go lucky fan lol. Do you have a problem reading dun? We are talking about PAc and Cal. 2 fighters...We are NOT talking about undefeated fighters. Cal is undefeated. Leave J.T out of this, he was never the best pfp. If you continue to speak to me with supreme lunacy, I'm going to have to cut this convo short. I do not talk boxing on a simpleton level.

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[Boofdatruth]

You made a list of undefeated fighters that are my top 10 pfp?????? You made a list????. You have some sort of weirdo complex that is weird in ever way lol. You are a happy go lucky fan lol. Do you have a problem reading dun? We are talking about PAc and Cal. 2 fighters...We are NOT talking about undefeated fighters. Cal is undefeated. Leave J.T out of this, he was never the best pfp. If you continue to speak to me with supreme lunacy, I'm going to have to cut this convo short. I do not talk boxing on a simpleton level.

Cal would school PAc if they were the same weight lol. Cal has granite in his chin.
He ain't got dog in him. Pac has dog n him, but it's been hidden for years. That's why I wanted to see PAc fight Valero or Guzman. They can bring it all out again lol.

[Boofdatruth]

the same Barrera that beat Hamed. Barrera was in his Prime and Pacquiao was green, Pacquiao beat him up. Pacquiao has only hit his Prime just now.

Barrera didn't fight back, sorry.

[Boofdatruth]

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[Eaner0919]

the same Barrera that beat Hamed. Barrera was in his Prime and Pacquiao was green, Pacquiao beat him up. Pacquiao has only hit his Prime just now.

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I usually dont side with boof on much but I have to call you on this

1. how was Barrera prime when he fought Manny?
2. how is Manny now just hitting prime

to me prime means being optimal physically mentally and skillwise or as close to it as it comes

Barrera had already gone through two wars with Morales, a war with McKinney, two bad losses to Junior Jones before he got to Manny

also you reference Hamed but fail to also state that that was a full two years+ before he faced Manny.

my guess for Barrera's prime (I have followed him since his Forum Boxing days) would put him right around 1999 when he captured the BO belt and probably right after the 2nd Morales fight when he decided he was going to box more and more as evidenced by the way he boxed Tapia after.

Manny has now gone through the bulk of his career and IMO has slipped just a bit in terms of physical prowess. He has been through wars with Morales twice and JMM twice.

My guess about Manny's prime would be the window from the first Marquez fight to the Larios fight where we saw him display better skills and also the same physical prowess he had in manhandling Barrera.

just because both became better boxers at their advanced stages of their careers does not mean they held on to their prime that entire time. In fact, it's because of their willingness to learn how to box that lengenthed their career and kept them at a lofty status

but I have doubts about when you state their prime was or is