Manny Pacquiao: Has He Sold Out ? and Is He Really The Best Pound For Pound?

[Left Hook Tua]

why do you have a walrus for a sig and avatar?

be nice. that girl is FINE!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Gully Gad]

why do you have a walrus for a sig and avatar?

lol

coming from someone who has 2 cheap thai brides in his ava

[Left Hook Tua]

why do you have a walrus for a sig and avatar?

dude i never even noticed those girls are thai.

where do you live? los angeles area?

[MELLY-MEL...]

[Boofdatruth]

Neither would floyd if he hadnt grown up the way he did. Floyd dominates through technical skill and ring generalship that can only be gained through experience and coaching. Take the fundamentals away from him and throw him in a pro ring at 16 you dont think he'd have early losses or be anywhere near what he actually is??

Meanwhile if Pacquiao had a former world champ as a uncle roger to show him how to use his blend of speed and power properly while adding defense since age 5 you dont think he'd be tenthfold more dominating than what he is today??

Lets take away everything from every fighter, and use "if's" to make our stories sound good lol. It aint where ya from, it's where ya at. Rakim -The G.O.A.T

[Boofdatruth]

I really thought you were the simpleton, so I tried going down to your level. The P4P list is not just about Undefeated records but more importantly is the level of competition and skill. How can you ever compare Cal's resume against Pac? The only HOF material Calzaghe fought is Bernard Hopkins and he's 96 years old for god's sake....talk about twilight in his career. They don't have the same resume...Pac's is miles away, so you went ahead and claimed Cal has an undefeated record.....LOL!

Don't act like you know more boxing than me.....you're even claiming Valero would finish Pac. Valero is a joke, it will be an exciting fight but the result will be faster than Diaz.

Again The Ring has the most credible Pound 4 Pound list, they've been rating boxers for 90 years. I always agree and trust thier list. If they say Pac is number 1 then it is, just as I agree that Floyd was the P4P 1 before he retired. I bet you're the many people who couldn't figure out why Bernard is still in thier list. If you don't you need an education on boxing and common sense thinking.

Man, I'm about to tear this post to pieces lol. PAc was stopped early in his career not once, but twice. He lost to a Morales who was not even Morales, but a flash of himself. He beat up a Barrera who didn't fight back, and Barrera looked better in their rematch. Did Pac beat Marquez in his last fight? I'm not so sure. I'll give you the first fight even though it wa a draw. Naw, I take that back. You guys name Sasakul as this great fighter PAc beat lol, and you know nothing about him. Guys here googled him lol.

Cal HAS NOT LOST, and he has faced stiff comp like Eubank, Reid, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy, Bika, Kessler and old Hop. Cal probably looked bad in about 2 maybe 3 fights his while career AND HE STILL WON. You can put up those past prime names and wins over Barrera, Morales, and the rematch of a 34 year old Marquez. PAc did not face them in THEIR prime.

PAc has been guided correctly so far. As long as you beat good comp, you are ok with me. Not everyone gets the chance to fight past prime H.O.F's. Those guys were once great fighters who were shells of themselves when they faced PAc with the exception of Marquez. You check their resumes of who Morales and Barrera were fighting during the time PAc was at 112-122. PAc is Tarver right now. He caught guys later on after their tough fights at the right time. I like PAc, he has one of the best offensive strategies in the game, but he isn't the best pfp fighter today. As far as what you think you know about Valero, you only have an opinion. Talking about it would be worse than Diaz lol. Diaz was a bum, Valero would've put Diaz in a Coma. I only want Pac to fight Valero or Guzman. If PAc wins, he gets props from me. PAc has been knocked out, and Cal hasn't. Oh, and one more thing lol...you can take Ring mag, and wipe your own ass with it.

[Boofdatruth]

Barrera, Morales and Marquez were at the P4P list when Pacquiao fought them. Nobody would have beaten them at that time except for themselves. They were past thier best but they weren't shot. Please review boxing terms. Thanks.

As long as you know they were "past their best". What do you mean "nobody would have beaten them at that time except for themselves" lol. How do you know? Do you even know who was around then when they were fighting? lol. Valero and Guzman were world champs at the same time PAc was in the division. Floyd asked for fights with Freitas and Casamayor. I never heard PAc ask to fight Valero or Guzman. Maybe there was no money in it, but don't use this same old arguemtn of the big 3 when that is all you have. After Barrera, Morales and Marquez, it's a whose who of fighters he beat. Sugar fought Duran in his prime, Hearns in his prime and Benitez in his prime. Those are 3 great wins over h.o.f fighters. PAc's wins were good wins. Now ask yourself why they are only good wins. PAc doesn't need to be overrated by you or anyone. He is only number 2 on my list, he isn't 1. Cal is because his resume is also good, and he HAS NOT LOST.

[Boofdatruth]

You're dealing with boofdadoof.

Think about that for a second and quit wasting your time.

Look, we are talking boxing here lol. This isn't a Floyd Mayweather "duck" thread. This is outside your realm of knowledge. Stay out of the discussion lol.

[ElGranLuchador]

wasn't the russian dude lineal champ when sasakul beat him?

no
by lineal champ u mean the ring champ right?

[Left Hook Tua]

no
by lineal champ u mean the ring champ right?

yeah. i thought that yuri guy chatchai beat was the lineal champ.

i need to look at my ring annual book. hold up.