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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #11
    Originally posted by Chilly Willy
    I am well aware of everything you just said. The way you stated that made it seem like you were referring to his punching power. No need for lectures.
    Not anymore there isn't.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sweet Revenge
      Not anymore there isn't.
      Fair enough.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Sweet Revenge
        I don't know which Glen Johnson you're talking about because the Johnson I know at 175 pounds is a very difficult target to get good shots in at. He doesn't do anything flashy, he just holds his hands properly and keeps his chin tucked and is very hard to catch flush.

        I wouldn't say Baldomir is a smaller, slower version of Margarito because Baldomir is 1) bigger, he walks around at approximately 190 pounds and 2) is nowhere near the offensive threat Margarito is. Baldomir is a durable veteran and when in shape can apply sustained pressure but without much pop. His greatest strength is his strength.
        Dawson made Johnson look pretty easy to hit in their match up last year sir. He stand in front of his oppenents and ****s with them. he may not be open target like some fighters but he does get hit. Maybe I should have worded it a little different by saying Johnson is willing to exchange with his oppenents and will stnad in front.

        Carlos Baldomir is only 5' 7 so to Margarito 5'11. Also the fact that Margarito has fought at 154 for some period of time. I don't know what marg walks around at but he could easily walk around at 160-165 with out being a baloon like Carlos Baldomir at 190. Going from 190 to 147 may be the reason why Carlos Baldomir only has 14 KO's..To me he is the smaller less dangerous version of Antonio margarito...Lefty

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          #14
          Originally posted by luckylefty731
          Dawson made Johnson look pretty easy to hit in their match up last year sir. He stand in front of his oppenents and ****s with them. he may not be open target like some fighters but he does get hit. Maybe I should have worded it a little different by saying Johnson is willing to exchange with his oppenents and will stnad in front.

          Carlos Baldomir is only 5' 7 so to Margarito 5'11. Also the fact that Margarito has fought at 154 for some period of time. I don't know what marg walks around at but he could easily walk around at 160-165 with out being a baloon like Carlos Baldomir at 190. Going from 190 to 147 may be the reason why Carlos Baldomir only has 14 KO's..To me he is the smaller less dangerous version of Antonio margarito...Lefty
          Everyone gets hit now and then, but as the fight progressed Dawson wasn't landing many clean punches like he was earlier. People look for all of these fancy defensive, Sweet Pea maneuvers and overlook the significance of just plain ol' keeping your hands up. It sounds simple but it works.

          Winky Wright does the same thing and is remarkably effective. He's also just as squared as Johnson, only difference is he doesn't commit to his punches.

          Baldomir has fought 150+ 9 times, Margarito only 6.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Sweet Revenge
            Everyone gets hit now and then, but as the fight progressed Dawson wasn't landing many clean punches like he was earlier. People look for all of these fancy defensive, Sweet Pea maneuvers and overlook the significance of just plain ol' keeping your hands up. It sounds simple but it works.

            Winky Wright does the same thing and is remarkably effective. He's also just as squared as Johnson, only difference is he doesn't commit to his punches.

            Baldomir has fought 150+ 9 times, Margarito only 6.
            Carlos Baldomir is 5'7 Antonio margarito is 5'11 to me that means Margarito is the bigger man...I mean Margarito walks around at a higher weight then Paul Williams but that doesnt mean Marg is the bigger man does it???...Lefty

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              #16
              Originally posted by luckylefty731
              Carlos Baldomir is 5'7 Antonio margarito is 5'11 to me that means Margarito is the bigger man...I mean Margarito walks around at a higher weight then Paul Williams but that doesnt mean Marg is the bigger man does it???...Lefty
              That's height, but the naturally chunkier guy is Baldomir. Tommy Hearns is much taller than Hagler but he wasn't stronger.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sweet Revenge
                That's height, but the naturally chunkier guy is Baldomir. Tommy Hearns is much taller than Hagler but he wasn't stronger.
                Of course a chubbier guy is a stronger guy...That is because fat gives you more power then muscle right? And you know for a fact that Hagler is stronger then Hearns because you
                A) Arm restled both of them
                B) Got hit by each of them
                C) Worked out n the gym and saw them max out on the bench press......

                Dude 5'11 is bigger then 5'7 Baldomir when he steps in the ring for a WW fight will weight 150-155 lbs and there is not doubt in my mind that Marg will be aroun 150-155 as well which means at that point in the ring the only difference is the height and reach where like I sad Margarito is the bigger man........Lefty

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by luckylefty731
                  Of course a chubbier guy is a stronger guy...That is because fat gives you more power then muscle right? And you know for a fact that Hagler is stronger then Hearns because you
                  A) Arm restled both of them
                  B) Got hit by each of them
                  C) Worked out n the gym and saw them max out on the bench press......

                  Dude 5'11 is bigger then 5'7 Baldomir when he steps in the ring for a WW fight will weight 150-155 lbs and there is not doubt in my mind that Marg will be aroun 150-155 as well which means at that point in the ring the only difference is the height and reach where like I sad Margarito is the bigger man........Lefty
                  If you want to run with the stance that Hearns is stronger than Hagler, be my guest. Don't expect me to follow.

                  Why would you assume that Baldomir is fat walking around, there is no evidence to suggest that. I've seen guys like Zahir Raheem walk around at 160 and be in good shape, and this is a guy who competed at 126.

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