Muhammad Ali- Was he the greatest heavyweight?

[Derranged]

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[Gio]

ali wasn't great? man you need to watch some of his fights.

Thats right he AINT the greatest. I have seen his fights and he doesnt impress me.

Just cuz he was in the spot light ALL the time doesnt make him the greatest.

Like i said i take nothing away from him, but alot of people just know the name ALi and just think he is the greatest and have never even seen him fight.

Look i aint saying that he was a good to great fighter, but to label him as thee Greatest is a stretch.

[whatitdo]

in my opinion tyson is da best heavyweight of all time..hes jus old now n so wut if he lost his last 2 fights so did ali

[Derranged]

in my opinion tyson is da best heavyweight of all time..hes jus old now n so wut if he lost his last 2 fights so did ali

The difference is Ali lost his last few fights after having a great career and beat many big names. Tyson's career was over when he was 23 and he did not beat many significant fighters.

[Yogi]

Dumbest thing I've heard...

If you think Louis still being a top contender is the dumbest thing you've heard then you might want to take that opinion up with Ring Magazine or observe their ratings from just before the Marciano/Louis fight (Aug of '51);

Champ: Jersey Joe Walcott
1: Ezzard Charles
2: JOE LOUIS
3: Rocky Marciano
4: Clarence Henry
5: Roland LaStarza
6: Bob Baker
7: Rex Layne
8: Cesar Brion
9: Lee Savold
10: Hein Neuhaus

What the other guy said was 100% true as evident there!

[Panamaniac]

Ali was my favorite heavyweight of all times, but the distinction for being the greatest, goes to one Joseph Louis Barrow.

[ore_wa]

Ali was great in that he was well known and admired in and out of the ring... but sadly imma have to go with Joe Louis...

[Steelhammer86]

I have recently read several books on some of Muhammad Ali's

fights and have discovered that he won alot of controversial

decisions over fighters like Ken Norton, Jimmy Young, Ernie

Shavers that could have easily gone in their favor. Ali rose

to occasion to beat great fighters like Foreman, Frazier, Liston.

But he wasn't always consistent, so was he the greatest

heavyweight of all time or was it the hype the he built up?

I remember watching some of those fights, and I always thought he was overrated. The media liked him and made him out to be larger than life, and his personality had more to do with his fame than his ability in the ring. He was a symbol of the 60's, and fit in well with that generation, being rebellious against the establishment and all that. But as a boxer, he was far from being the greatest of all time.

Both Norton and Frazier are credited with defeating him in his prime (age 29 and 31) but one of his other two fights with Norton was really another loss, but became a gift SD for him. The second fight with Frazier could have gone either way. He was so popular with the boxing establishment that any close fight would be judged in his favor.

[realheavyhands]

in my opinion tyson is da best heavyweight of all time..hes jus old now n so wut if he lost his last 2 fights so did ali

i used to think the same thing...but noway ..ali was the greatest by far he had parkinsons and was still beating guys whitch is crazy.. parkinsons slows your motor reflexes .. he may have been ifhgtin with parkinson for over 5 years

[EliteSoldier]

Joe Louis, Jack Johnson, Rocky Marciano, and Jack Dempsey are all better then Ali. Ali is overrated. He's not a bad boxer but he is not on the same level as the other guys I mentioned, those fighters would have killed him in the ring, instead of giving him brain damage like the fighters in his generation. Theres plenty more boxers, I'd list before ali.