Vitali Klitschko: "I'll Knock Sam Peter Out Within Six"

[Allucard]

On a night that will electrify the boxing world, active World Boxing Council (WBC) Heavyweight Champion Sam Peter (30-1, 23 KOs) will defend his title against WBC Champion Emeritus Vitali Klitschko (35-2, 34 KOs), making his dramatic return to the ring after a four-year absence, on SHOWTIME CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING, Saturday, October 11. [details]

"Within six" or "With sex"? Sorry i couldn't resist hahahahahha no hate, just oh so fun. The lack of personality makes it even funnier. Can you imagine? Yeah but he will, i hope he does KO that overweight bum.. Maybe he can stay there too and defend against Haye? That would be awesome, if Haye wins then Wlad would fight Haye and surely the HW division will come to live, i'm sure...

[Stickman]

McCline is 6'7 270 lbs & most TRUE boxing fans KNOW that one punch in the heavyweight division can change a fight. Had McCline fought like that consistently through his career he might've been a world champ. Oliver McCall is 230lbs but can hit like a truck. Mike Tyson in his prime was 212-215 & had devastating power. Rocky Marciano was less than 200 lbs & probably hit harder than most heavyweights today along with Smokin Joe Frazier. So before you go spouting your informed opinion like you were in Manny Stewart's pocket listening to his conversations about Wlad you need to do some research or learn more bout boxing, not specific fighters. Vitali hunting like a tiger? Give me a break! He could've finished off Danny Williams & Corrie Sanders well before they were stopped but it seems he's a cautious fighter. You make him out to be George Foreman in his prime which he NEVER was or will be.

Danny Williams, maybe. Sanders? No, you've got to get that guy gassed before he'll go down, and even then I don't know if you could actually starch him...most likely be TKO'd while standing.

[Chase8400]

Your credibility went out of the window when you mention a partial win over Lewis. His face was WRECKED & the fight was stopped by TKO amnesiac. Your reasoning is on the level of a 5 year old boxing fan if you think KO percentages mean as much as you're putting stock into. Look at the quality of opposition he's fought then get back to me when you actually know a little about boxing. In the heavyweight division all it takes is one punch to change things because these guys a big.

Trust me son, you have no footing to judge my credibility. Leave that alone or I will bury you. Yes, he did suffer cuts that ended the fight. However, he was WINNING on the scorecards at the time of stoppage and gained mad respect from the audience and boxing fans around the world too. To me, in conjunction with not acually quiting makes him a partial victor no matter what the records say. Lewis would have went to sleep if the fight would have continued. he knew that and that's why he never granted the rematch. Answer me this: has anyone else ever been beating Lennox before at the time of stoppage? Exactly. Now you can go freshen up and come back and attempt to converse with me. I am dropping my credibility by even responding to your little reply.You make sense by saying that big guys punches turn fights around instantly, which is obvious. But to question quality of opposition there is a fast end to the argument. 1. Beat (2) fighters by Ko that Ko'd his brother, who is now the best heavyweight in the world. 2. Took the best heavyweight in the last 30 years (Lennox L.) to his limit and WAS beating him at the time of stoppage, no matter what you think. 3. Retired willingly after beating the pure **** out of a man who Ko'd Mike Tyson more convincingly that Lennox did. The rest of the guys who got punked don't matter, but as you see with my examples , you have no grounds with your arguments and normally they would fall on deaf ears altogether if you had not insulted me. So in turn, I show you how weak you bring it with your second hand Lennox Lewis quotes and i really hav'nt even got started yet.

[Chase8400]

I'm surprised that a boxing fan who's been on this boead since 2004 wouldhold such unformed opinions. Every word I wrote was amply corroborated by Manny Steward, almost in the very same terms. The punch that nearly KD Peter was nothing out of the ordinary, and the big palooka was KD 3 times by light hitting Jameel McCline, in the very early rounds, not when "he was tired".

For you to think that "Vitaly isn't the offensive machine....etc" I have to say you really don't know what you are saying. V Klirschko is one of the most accurate punchers I've ever seen, and is a thoroughly devastating finisher. He's like a hunting tiger in the ring, and at the slightest sign of weakness in the opponent, he jumps right down his throat.
Wladimir, by comparison is rather tame, and, although earlier in his career would be just as ferocious, since being trained by Steward, now "waits and sees".

The now have two completely different boxing styles, and I'm surprised that it isn't immediately obvious to you.

Hmmm, I wondered the same things. Then I realized that this guy who has a gangster posted on his avatar knows jack **** about boxing. To even mutter that Vitali is not offensive is like saying that ***** is'nt black by hearing him only on the radio. He apparently has never saw a Vitali fight to say something so off base. That looks horrible for a senior member even if it is opinions stated like they are facts. Ridiculous.

[sportsplato]

Vitali is more of a ****er than Wlad. Both can box, but Vitali likes to mix it up more. Especially since his chin has never been dented. But Lennox did turn his face into Ground Beef. Vitali doesn't have the power of Wlad either, but I always liked Vitali more due to his fight with Lennox and beating Corrie Sanders after he KTFO his brother. Thats what a good big brother should do. Vitali only wins by early KO. After the 6th round, it will be all Sam Peter.

[Knicksman20]

Trust me son, you have no footing to judge my credibility. Leave that alone or I will bury you. Yes, he did suffer cuts that ended the fight. However, he was WINNING on the scorecards at the time of stoppage and gained mad respect from the audience and boxing fans around the world too. To me, in conjunction with not acually quiting makes him a partial victor no matter what the records say. Lewis would have went to sleep if the fight would have continued. he knew that and that's why he never granted the rematch. Answer me this: has anyone else ever been beating Lennox before at the time of stoppage? Exactly. Now you can go freshen up and come back and attempt to converse with me. I am dropping my credibility by even responding to your little reply.You make sense by saying that big guys punches turn fights around instantly, which is obvious. But to question quality of opposition there is a fast end to the argument. 1. Beat (2) fighters by Ko that Ko'd his brother, who is now the best heavyweight in the world. 2. Took the best heavyweight in the last 30 years (Lennox L.) to his limit and WAS beating him at the time of stoppage, no matter what you think. 3. Retired willingly after beating the pure **** out of a man who Ko'd Mike Tyson more convincingly that Lennox did. The rest of the guys who got punked don't matter, but as you see with my examples , you have no grounds with your arguments and normally they would fall on deaf ears altogether if you had not insulted me. So in turn, I show you how weak you bring it with your second hand Lennox Lewis quotes and i really hav'nt even got started yet.

Your the same guy that said Corrie Sanders KO'ed Rahman in a previous post in this thread. If you had actually watched the fight Rahman TKO'ed Sanders so yeah, your boxing knowledge & credibility are damn near zero by the very few posts I've taken the time to read. And to say it again his face was a mess by CLEAN punching so there's no partial victory about it. He was stopped fair so don't try to sugar coat things for your own agenda.

[Stickman]

Your the same guy that said Corrie Sanders KO'ed Rahman in a previous post in this thread. If you had actually watched the fight Rahman TKO'ed Sanders so yeah, your boxing knowledge & credibility are damn near zero by the very few posts I've taken the time to read. And to say it again his face was a mess by CLEAN punching so there's no partial victory about it. He was stopped fair so don't try to sugar coat things for your own agenda.

Couple of points...The punch that tore open Klitchko's brow was a freight-train right hand from Lewis (preceeded by a lead left hook) that didn't quite catch square and the front of Lewis' entire glove raked Klitchko's brow, with the laces most likely being the cause of such a huge tear. Definitely caused by a punch, and definitely a legit TKO win, just not quite as "clean" as some think. The lips were, at least initially, ****** about by Lewis' head..Klitchko is one of a very few fighters in the world who are just the right height for Lewis head to catch him in the mouth if he leans his head down (Lewis certainly does this when coming in to clinch). The damage was worsened somewhat by a couple of jabs and a right hand, but Lewis' head did most of it, completely unintentional, though, and had nothing to do with the stoppage, which in my opinion was probably a little late, to be honest. That was a very, very nasty gash that could've caused vision problems for Vitali later on. No sense in even a small risk of that, and at the time I figured there'd be an immediate rematch (joke was on me, I guess) and wasn't concerned....after all, Klitchko wasn't losing an undefeated record, why give him another round to redeem the fight when he's got such a bad cut?

And before you go flaming me, I suggest you watch the fight, and slo-mo through the portion where the cut shows up, and where his mouth first starts looking bad. I'm taking no sides between the ****riders on either side, I'm just stating fact for the sake of having it maybe become widespread knowledge.

[edgarg]

Your the same guy that said Corrie Sanders KO'ed Rahman in a previous post in this thread. If you had actually watched the fight Rahman TKO'ed Sanders so yeah, your boxing knowledge & credibility are damn near zero by the very few posts I've taken the time to read. And to say it again his face was a mess by CLEAN punching so there's no partial victory about it. He was stopped fair so don't try to sugar coat things for your own agenda.

He didn't say that Sanders KO'd Rahman. he said that Sanders knocked Rahman "right out of the ring" and was beating him "like a red-headed stepchild". ( interesting description) but "gassed' and was eventall'y TKO'd.

We have to keep to facts if we want others to give us credibility.

[edgarg]

So the 6 months untill vitali fought kirk johnson, he was waiting on lennox lewis to follow through with his promise of a rematch? He must have been very frustrated by the way he came out so aggressive against kirk johnson, he was trying to take kirks head off. was this a result of lewis not giving vitali a rematch?

I think that this is a very astute comment. I believe that he wanted to show the boxing world that THIS is what he'd do to Lewis's original opponent, just as he was doing it to Lewis himself.

He was also very frustrated with the fact that Lewis made him "jump through hoops" to make him "eligible" for the great Lewis to deign to enter the ring with him again. Lewis made it a condition for the rematch, (which as you know, Lewis funked out on) for him to travel all the way to London England, to be examined by Lewis "special" eye expert "............

You can imagine how happy Klitschko was about THAT, since the injury was not even visible after 10 days. It was a simple tear, with a "Y" motif, and looked worse than it actually was. He'd had repairs done by a top cosmetic surgeon. I saw a TV close=up myself, deliberately shown to let the boxing world know that Lewis was talking his usual crap.

[The Wire]

I really hope Vitali loses, not because I'm a big Peter fan or Vitali hater, but simply because what does it say about the state of the heavyweight game if a guy can be retired for 4 years, come back and beat the 2nd best fighter in the division!? Plus Vitali really isn't that great anyway.