if shane was white would he be considered a greater fighter?

[Left Hook Tua]

The one calling Pavlik hype is white limey boys. How is Wladimir a hype he is a proven heavyweight fight. Calzaghe is a proven fighter but has not beaten a proven young prime fighter

pavlik is undisputed middleweight champ.

calzaghe has been champ for more than a decade.

wlad has been the #1 at heavy for years and hold multiple belts.

they might be called overrated (anyone can be underrated or overrated depends on who's doing the rating) but they CAN'T be called HYPE.

[Flawless]

pavlik is undisputed middleweight champ.

calzaghe has been champ for more than a decade.

wlad has been the #1 at heavy for years and hold multiple belts.

they might be called overrated (anyone can be underrated or overrated depends on who's doing the rating) but they CAN'T be called HYPE.

Amazingly you forget Hatton the former undefeated Light WW king who made Kostya retire on the stool.

[Left Hook Tua]

if shane was japanese......he'd be a ninja!

[Flawless]

If Shane was white he would be doing money management ads

[Left Hook Tua]

Amazingly you forget Hatton the former undefeated Light WW king who made Kostya retire on the stool.

why would i bring kostya up?

1. you were talking about pav , cal , and wlad hype.

2. how the hell is kostya tszyu hype?

[Flawless]

why would i bring kostya up?

1. you were talking about pav , cal , and wlad hype.

2. how the hell is kostya tszyu hype?

You talk about how good Pavlik Calzaghe and Vlad is not yet nothing about Hatton.

[j.razor]

White fighters seem to get a lot of credit. Shane beat top level competition and hasn't ducked anybody throughout his career. Was his warrior style and amazing natural talent enough? Discuss. Share your thoughts.

he did duck Mayweather...then Mayweather went 2 oscar...

[tredh]

I don't care what color Mosley is I don't consider him a great fighter.

[Left Hook Tua]

You talk about how good Pavlik Calzaghe and Vlad is not yet nothing about Hatton.

you never brought up hatton.

if you were calling him hype i would have said his name too.

you have flawed logic......

i didn't mention those 3 out of the blue......those were the 3 guys you mentioned that i was responding to.

besides i didn't say how good they were......

i said they weren't hype.

go argue with someone else.

[Dynamite Kid]

if mosley was british he'd be considered the greatest lightweight and welterweight of all time by the limeys.

you are probably right there

but he would not be seen considered the greatest lightweight and welterweight of all time by me cause im not a bedwetter i realise he has lost most of his biggest tests post ODLH and he has showed zero ability to adjust and he has a questionable defence

ive said it before if Jones jr was British my fellow limeys would be unbareable