Is Joe Calzaghe an ATG great fighter???

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  • T-97
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Gold Mac
    Had toney, roy jones, and hopkins all fought at 168 during their primes all 3 of them woulda made calzaghe look bad...but hed be their as the 4th man. He woulda been credited as a very good fighter but not great.
    I agree, I would rate all those guys higher than Calzaghe on an ATG list. But as a Super Middleweight, Joe is the best. No one else has proved their domanance over the division how he did,

    Jones and Toney used it as a bridge to higher weights really.

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    • WESS
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      #22
      He will go down in the HOF for fighting a lot of __________ (you enter the word) and holding a belt for a long time. He waited to long to become something he is not. So IMO no never.

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        #23
        Originally posted by T-97
        I agree, I would rate all those guys higher than Calzaghe on an ATG list. But as a Super Middleweight, Joe is the best. No one else has proved their domanance over the division how he did,

        Jones and Toney used it as a bridge to higher weights really.
        Meeeting the ATG level is extremely hard. James Toney is not a certain ATG not by a long shot.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Flawless
          Max Schmeling, he fought 15 rounds back in those days a lot harder. KO him out in the first round in the rematch
          Schmeling was past his prime when Louis defeated him.

          When they fought a couple of years earlier, Schmeling won.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Flawless
            www.castefootball.us

            Enjoy your racist website that you post and use for your information.
            You've posted that website link about ten times now.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Flawless
              You need to revaluate the meaning of ATG, because if Calzaghe makes so does Ottke how many defensives did he do?? He knocked out Mundine which Kessler failed
              Yes. Ottke did that. It doesn't matter that Mundine only had 10 pro fights going in (and probably no AM-career).

              And Ottke is a HOF'er I'm afraid. 20+ titledefenses and an unbeaten record. I am serious guys sorry. But Ottke isn't an ATG. Joe is.

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              • Flawless
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                #27
                Originally posted by Tunney
                You've posted that website link about ten times now.
                Is that going to change the fact you posted a white supremacist website.

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                • T-97
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Flawless
                  Meeeting the ATG level is extremely hard. James Toney is not a certain ATG not by a long shot.
                  I suppose, I know what you mean,

                  Joe will go down as a great super middleweight. But not an All Time Great. I chance my vote to no...

                  But i still maintain that he is a great Super Middleweight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    Meeeting the ATG level is extremely hard. James Toney is not a certain ATG not by a long shot.
                    oh so we measure it by flawless's biased and utterly defunct/racist reasoning people..

                    your right about toney though, the only HOF hes going in is happy eater.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BatTheMan
                      Yes. Ottke did that. It doesn't matter that Mundine only had 10 pro fights going in (and probably no AM-career).

                      And Ottke is a HOF'er I'm afraid. 20+ titledefenses and an unbeaten record. I am serious guys sorry. But Ottke isn't an ATG. Joe is.
                      Ottke Hatton Kostya Mosley Judah Kessler Eubank Benn Margarito Cotto Forrest are all HOFER


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