How Americans overrate there greats?

[majestiC]

marvin's division (while not particularly deep) was still better than hopkins' crappy ass division.

that's why i laugh when people talk crap about joe's defenses and no-name division when bernard's 160 was utter crap as well. can you seriously argue 160 during hopkins' reign was better than joe's? reid , brewer , mitchell is better than holmes or joppy imo.

eubank is better than any fighter hopkins fought at 160. (glengoffe was a good win but he wasn't the same guy at 160 as he was later on his career at 175 or even 168.)

you want to know how good the 160 division was during bernard's reign?

keith holmes couldn't win the nabf belt at 154 so he jumped to 160 and became the wbc 160 champion for numerous years.

tell ya what mate this is what I love about boxing is, WHO KNOWS MATE? we can pick who has the best era and that but does that matter on how on how gd the person is? who knows who is better thats why i find these threads pointless

[Left Hook Tua]

tell ya what mate this is what I love about boxing is, WHO KNOWS MATE? we can pick who has the best era and that but does that matter on how on how gd the person is? who knows who is better thats why i find these threads pointless

i know.

just ask me.

[TheGreatA]

Hagler couldn't KO (and lost to) Watts & Manroe who are journeyment at best, Antuofermo a gd all draw and a close match vs a lightweight in Duran, but somehow KO's Calzaghe whos never been knocked out and fights at a higher weight. But sorry thats clutching at straws, thats like saying Turpin would KO Mayweather its just crazy. Dont get me wrong Hagler was a great fighter with great ko potential but saying he would KO Calzaghe easily when hes never been ko'd and a weight above is just ******. If Duran can cause problems who is Hattons size why would Calzaghe struggle? Duran was amazing but hes no middleweight.

Hagler did knock out both Watts and Monroe (in two rounds), they weren't journeymen either, top middleweight contenders from Philadelphia.
The Watts loss was a hometown decision, the Monroe loss I've never seen (not sure if a film even exists).
Either way, a more experienced Hagler got rid of both of them very quickly.

The Antuofermo fight was a robbery, Hagler deserved that win. In a rematch Hagler destroyed Antuofermo who was certainly no bum.

Hagler looked tentative against Duran, not one of his best performances for sure but perhaps he was looking to prove a point (some were questioning his now legendary stamina at the time).

I can't say whether Hagler would KO Calzaghe or not but it's certainly not an impossible outcome, especially if the fight is 15 rounds.

Hagler did break down several fighters who were known for their ability to take a punch.

[larryx]

maybe because calzaghe has never fought anyone in their prime as good as hagler///overated calzaghe is the definition of overated//duran and hagler both ko joke calzaghe and easy work

[majestiC]

maybe because calzaghe has never fought anyone in their prime as good as hagler///overated calzaghe is the definition of overated//duran and hagler both ko joke calzaghe and easy work

im sorry, but most posts here Hagler is better than Mayweather and by a wide shot. Im not responding to joke Calzaghe posts there just wind ups i can pick apart any career like a noob i just did Haglers but that doesnt mean he would KO the best super middleweight of all time thats what in find ******.

[larryx]

im sorry, but most posts here Hagler is better than Mayweather and by a wide shot. Im not responding to joke Calzaghe posts there just wind ups i can pick apart any career like a noob i just did Haglers but that doesnt mean he would KO the best super middleweight of all time thats what in find ******.

best supermiddle weight of all time!!!!lol the division is hardly 20 years old//and haglers resume is better than mayweathers!!!who even mentioned mayweather

[larryx]

calzaghe is overated..if he fought in haglers era he'd be in haglers division and would probally be 35-10

[larryx]

leonard would beat him,duran.hearns wouldve slaughters him,hagler easy work//thats 4 loses right there

[majestiC]

best supermiddle weight of all time!!!!lol the division is hardly 20 years old//and haglers resume is better than mayweathers!!!who even mentioned mayweather

OK so the best person in that weight class in 20 years is rubbish?

[Left Hook Tua]

OK so the best person in that weight class in 20 years is rubbish?

i like nigel.