who really won Pacman v Marquez 1+2

[Left Hook Tua]

I didn't see the first fight, but I had Marquez ahead in the second fight.

here's the disputed 1st round.

[Miburo]

that's what the 3rd judge thought as well. when he was questioned about it because his 10-7 caused the draw. he stated that he didn't realize you could give a 10-6 round.

10-8 one kd. 10-7 two kd. 10-6 three kd.

it's rare because how many times does a guy get knocked down 3 times and the fight not get stopped?

i was surprised joe cortez didn't stop it myself. imagine how boxing history would've changed if joe did stop it after 1 round?

Usually if a guy gets knocked down three times in a round (and isn't named Archie Moore) if he isn't finished there he will go in the next round. It is a bit surprising that it wasn't stopped but it was a good call, Marquez did not seem particularly hurt (to the point of not being able to continue) despite going down that many times.

[Left Hook Tua]

Usually if a guy gets knocked down three times in a round (and isn't named Archie Moore) if he isn't finished there he will go in the next round. It is a bit surprising that it wasn't stopped but it was a good call, Marquez did not seem particularly hurt (to the point of not being able to continue) despite going down that many times.

he was hurt but not seriously hurt. when he was laying there after the 3rd kd it seemed like to me he was like , "what's going on here?" , in shock. a lot of heart to continue......

he got kd 3 times in 1 minute. crazy. he just wasn't ready for manny's speed. when he adjusted for manny's handspeed he did very well.

[unbanxcaret]

here's the disputed 1st round.

what happened after that round is unheard of

[Miburo]

My recollection of the 12th rd was both guys believed they had and were protecting the lead going in. Pacman didnt pressure as much as previous rds but landed more than enough to keep the rd close. After landing with frequency as the rd closed...Pacman looked at Marquez as if to say I can do this all night. Marquez looked back as if to say too bad its over and i got this

Just rewatched the 12th and it wasn't as wide as I recalled. Marquez definitely took the round but both seemed able to continue just fine. Pacquiao had slowed down considerably, in subsequent rounds Marquez (also slowed) might have been able to win just through counterpunching as it would likely have finished at a slow pace.

[Left Hook Tua]

what happened after that round is unheard of

round 3 on was practically all marquez. he really exposed manny's deficiencies.

[-Swizzy-]

Pacquaio won both IMO but both by a hairline. I wouldn't argue against a draw in both.