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  • Gareth Ivanovic
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    Changes you would make to amatuer (Olympic) boxing

    I've been watching quite a few of the boxing matches during the Olympic's and it's quite obvious this scoring system is flawed. It seems like nobody likes the system and it just doesn't work. I don't know how many times I've seen punches land that weren't counted and at times points given when I didn't see a punch landed. Plus the rule of landing using the white part of the glove and in certain areas is just ridiculous. It's become a lot of throwing a few punches and then holding.

    I was wondering what kind of changes you would make to amatuer boxing.

    For one I would get rid of the headgear. Just possibly for the Olympics and World Championships or any other big time competition. It would bring back the KO element. Somebody could be getting schooled but then land that one punch to end it.

    As for the scoring, maybe go to the pro style of three judges, but have that be open scoring. There still might be some corruption with that so that could be a problem, but it's better than what it is now.

    These are a couple, so maybe you guys have some more.
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    I'd make knockdowns have value and incentive so we could see some real action instead of the pittypat **** all the time.

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #3
      -Take off the headgear

      -Use smaller gloves

      -Implement a 10-point must system

      -Use competent boxing judges/referees

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      • sparked_85
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        It has to go back to a 10 point system, but it won't so maybe they should introduce another 2 judges to the 5 they already have and have the same rule about if 3 judges press the button within a second of eachother, that raises the odds a little.

        Some of the eastern europeans and even Mongolians are such savvy amateur boxers. I watched a fight between two eastern europeans, neither threw a lead of any sort being it a jab or a hook. They both spent the whole fight trying to land with straight punches from their rear hand because they knew that it would score.

        To do well in the Amateurs you need to hit and stay away. The Americans got drowned by the more experienced Europeans. To be fair you have to have a specialised style or you ain't winning **** in the Ams on the big stage unless you play the game. Britain's James De Gale seems to have modified his style to give himself a better chance of medaling.

        The Super Heavyweight division looks more like pro boxing.
        Last edited by sparked_85; 08-21-2008, 06:59 PM.

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        • Gareth Ivanovic
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          Originally posted by Stormin' Norman
          I'd make knockdowns have value and incentive so we could see some real action instead of the pittypat **** all the time.
          Yeah the pittypat gets annoying. It's become just about scoring and whether it's effective or not doesn't matter.

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            Getting rid of the corruption would be the first place to start!

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            • damian5000
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              #7
              Rather than start a new thread gonna hijack this slightly.

              Does anyone know how long the system has been like this?

              Was it invented by that Asian dude they just interviewed? This dude wants to start his own league....

              Would it be the same way if the Olympics were in some other country this year?

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              • sparked_85
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                Originally posted by Chunk
                Getting rid of the corruption would be the first place to start!
                I liked the Commonwealth games tournaments better.

                You get some milkman from Papua New Guinea looking like he's put boxing gloves on for the first time getting starched in about 10 seconds, it's comic gold.

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                • Gareth Ivanovic
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                  Originally posted by sparked_85
                  It has to go back to a 10 point system, but it won't so maybe they should introduce another 2 judges to the 5 they already have and have the same rule about if 3 judges press the button within a second of eachother, that raises the odds a little.

                  Some of the eastern europeans and even Mongolians are such savvy amateur boxers. I watched a fight between two eastern europeans, neither threw a lead of any sort being it a jab or a hook. They both spent the whole fight trying to land with straight punches from their rear hand because they knew that it would score.

                  To do well in the Amateurs you need to hit and stay away. The Americans got drowned by the more experienced Europeans. To be fair you have to have a specialised style or you ain't winning **** in the Ams on the big stage unless you play the game. Britain's James De Gale seems to have modified his style to give himself a better chance of medaling.

                  The Super Heavyweight division looks more like pro boxing.
                  Yeah the Eastern Euro's are savvy. They know how to work the system. Which you can't blame them for because the object is to win. I rarely saw a jab scored unless it was a blistering shot. It's just that the way it is now it doesn't totally seem like boxing.

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                  • Gareth Ivanovic
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                    Originally posted by damian5000
                    Rather than start a new thread gonna hijack this slightly.

                    Does anyone know how long the system has been like this?

                    Was it invented by that Asian dude they just interviewed? This dude wants to start his own league....

                    Would it be the same way if the Olympics were in some other country this year?
                    I thought I heard Pappas and Atlas mention that their is whole new set of people at AIBA and they just inherited this new scoring system.

                    As for that league I agree with Pappas and Atlas it won't last. I mean unless they are getting paid huge dollars, which I doubt, how would they stay there when so much more money can be made in pro boxing. I could only see mediocre guys being in that league. Because you can be in that league and still compete in the Olympics, but you would have had to start in that league to begin with.

                    Yeah I think no matter where he olympics were the scoring would have been ragged on. The Chinese fighters though it seems every time they fight get some helpful scoring.

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