No Way Toney Beats Wladimir

[Omalsi11]

Toney knocks Wladimir out.


No he doesn't but Toney is a great all-around fighter. If he was 6'4, 230 lbs, we know what would happen. But Toney is really a super middleweight who has the build and style to also fight at higher weight classes.

He really desnt actually have the build for HW. Hes not a natural fighter at that weight, it's a lack of discipline that lead him to HW. Unless you count fat as a part of your 'build'

[Derranged]

So any version of a HW Toney? He shoulda said that tho right? But yeah I think that JT pulled it off against Holy cuz a) Evander was even older than him and B) Holy aint that big for a Heavy.

Yes he should have said that.

[TheGreatA]

He really desnt actually have the build for HW. Hes not a natural fighter at that weight, it's a lack of discipline that lead him to HW. Unless you count fat as a part of your 'build'

He doesn't have the build to be 230-240 lbs like he is now (just fat) but he looked quite solid against Holyfield and very good at cruiserweight.



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[Omalsi11]

He doesn't have the build to be 230-240 lbs like he is now (just fat) but he looked quite solid against Holyfield and very good at cruiserweight.



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Even against Holy he had unnecesary bulk on him. I will admit however that he looked good at times at Cruiser. The funny thing is that there were other times at Cruiser where he still looked fat. So that just tells you of how bad he is now physically.

[hugh grant]

I think that Toney must be something else if he can be competitive at heavy by just being fat and eating big macs?

Why dont his abilities follow the rule book? How come other boxers cant do what Toney does? Is he the greatest boxer in history?

[KJB]

Most would agree that Toney wouldnt have much of a chance against Wlad. Not today anyway.

[KJB]

Why dont his abilities follow the rule book? How come other boxers cant do what Toney does? Is he the greatest boxer in history?

Well no, he isnt the greatest boxer in the history of the entire sport. Other people, actually smaller than him, have done similar things. But thats what makes this sport so amazing: when you see people do things you simply didnt think could be done.

[BrooklynBomber]

Toney knocks Wladimir out.


No he doesn't but Toney is a great all-around fighter. If he was 6'4, 230 lbs, we know what would happen. But Toney is really a super middleweight who has the build and style to also fight at higher weight classes.

No matter Toney's size he would never be the favorite against Wladimir. Wlad fests off semimobile counterpunching boxers and would jab circles around Toney. Toney would fall in love with his defense, all in all losing majority of the rounds.

[TheGreatA]

No matter Toney's size he would never be the favorite against Wladimir. Wlad fests off semimobile counterpunching boxers and would jab circles around Toney. Toney would fall in love with his defense, all in all losing majority of the rounds.

It could happen. But a well-timed knockout punch, not unlike Toney vs Nunn, is what I would see happening in the hypothetical situation that a 168 lb James Toney fought against Wladimir Klitschko in a p4p match-up.

Toney tends to get more aggressive as the fight goes on, especially when he is losing or if it's close. Not when he is unprepared though, then he just lays back and hopes that the opponent would walk into a counter punch.

McCallum and Nunn did well against Toney with the jab, but they also had to eat some counter punches (McCallum absorbed them, Nunn did not). I don't have much faith in Wladimir's jaw during the later stages of the fight.

Of course in a real match-up Toney would not have the ability to hurt Wladimir, he is way too small.

[Scott9945]

Most would agree that Toney wouldnt have much of a chance against Wlad. Not today anyway.

You might be surprised how gullible some fans on this site are.