What could Cotto have done different to beat Margarito?

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  • luv3s2sp00g3
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    What could Cotto have done different to beat Margarito?

    First off, I just wanna say I am not biased towards either Margarito OR Cotto. I made this thread purely to look at the fight from a technical standpoint.

    I honestly think the SINGLE most important thing that could have turned the fight in Cotto's favor was: The Clinch. I think he just tired himself out too much by using his footwork the whole fight. His whole strategy was to land hard and clean during those flurries when he set his feet, then get some space and keep making Marg readjust, repeat. I don't think it was a bad gameplan, it's just that his tank ran out before the final bell rang (not to mention that Marg's chin is made of diamond). If he were to just readjust, land his flurries, and immediately clinch after half of those exchanges I think the fight could have ended a lot differently. It just seems like a better option to me than dancing around Marg to create space. Of course this is all in hindsight.

    What do you think Cotto could have done differently?
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    RECYCLED FROM ANOTHER THREAD:

    I think if he works on creating more angles to work the body more to slow down the pressure just a tad would do a great amount against an IRON CHIN like Margs.. Cotto has great footwork but needs to learn to keep his gaurd up as he's using his feet (mainly back-pedaling)..with a pressure fighter..and it's a lil obvious that my boy needs to up his stamina and endurance a little and expect to go 12 rds with Margs..I say he wins a mid-close UD 2nd time around..



    p.s. He got the best of the exchanges when they did go toe to toe..except I wish he would keep it in the center of the ring..so it can be easier to slip out if needed instead of bein backed to more ropes or even worse the corner..

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    • Mojita
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      Cotto stood on the ropes sometimes too long, instead of trying to move away and counter. With Tony, you can't try to be macho and trade regardless if its just a minute. When Cotto stayed on the ropes, Tony made him pay with body shots that broke Cotto down later on in the fight. And Cotto ate a uppercut too many that busted his nose that caused more stamina draining. In the 2nd round and later on the fight, Cotto stood there in the miidle of the ring to try to work his body work, but Marg didn't let it happen. In a rematch, Cotto should be smart, do the same he was doing in the first half of the fight and STAY OFF THE ROPES, avoid the uppercuts and he'll have the fight in the bag. He was trying to work the body too much and paid for it.

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      • Welter_Skelter
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        #4
        Originally posted by luv3s2sp00g3
        First off, I just wanna say I am not biased towards either Margarito OR Cotto. I made this thread purely to look at the fight from a technical standpoint.

        I honestly think the SINGLE most important thing that could have turned the fight in Cotto's favor was: The Clinch. I think he just tired himself out too much by using his footwork the whole fight. His whole strategy was to land hard and clean during those flurries when he set his feet, then get some space and keep making Marg readjust, repeat. I don't think it was a bad gameplan, it's just that his tank ran out before the final bell rang (not to mention that Marg's chin is made of diamond). If he were to just readjust, land his flurries, and immediately clinch after half of those exchanges I think the fight could have ended a lot differently. It just seems like a better option to me than dancing around Marg to create space. Of course this is all in hindsight.

        What do you think Cotto could have done differently?
        Short of using a Baseball bat.. nothing..

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        • WaRCoTTo
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          #5
          Originally posted by Thadrow
          Cotto stood on the ropes sometimes too long, instead of trying to move away and counter. With Tony, you can't try to be macho and trade regardless if its just a minute. When Cotto stayed on the ropes, Tony made him pay with body shots that broke Cotto down later on in the fight. And Cotto ate a uppercut too many that busted his nose that caused more stamina draining. In the 2nd round and later on the fight, Cotto stood there in the miidle of the ring to try to work his body work, but Marg didn't let it happen. In a rematch, Cotto should be smart, do the same he was doing in the first half of the fight and STAY OFF THE ROPES, avoid the uppercuts and he'll have the fight in the bag. He was trying to work the body too much and paid for it.
          ****!! that gif in ur sig is SOMETHIN NASHTY!!..

          He cracked his jaw SOLID like that many times...It's official Margarito is not human!!

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          • Silencers
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            I think he should use smarter movement and he has to learn how to clinch a bit more when the situation gets bad for him, he needs to stay off the ropes and from time to time get inside Margarito's punching range, he was on the end of Magarito's punches for most of the fight where the punches do the most damage, he needs to get inside on Margarito a little bit and punch to the body, one big thing that he didn't do was punch to the body, he will have to to slow Margarito down a little bit as the fight goes on but on the inside he'll have to keep his elbows closed to watch out for those uppercuts that Margarito loves to use.

            He should also pick his shots a little better, don't go head hunting.

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            • Dan...
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              Cotto could win a rematch. The way I saw it was he fought the exact way he needed to for around half the fight before his stamina deserted him and his movement suffered as a result. If he could improve on those aspects and perhaps work on getting hit just a little less I think he would be able to outpoint Margarito with his superior skills. I think a rematch would be a 50/50 fight.

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              • rambov
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                There was nothing Cotto could have done. He threw his best punches at Magarito's head and body. In the end, Magarito broke his will. Cotto fought to his last breath and when he took his final knee he was a beaten man physically and in spirit. He lost to someone who wanted to win more than he did and that's one of the worst losses a man can get cause it ****s up your mental.

                If anything Cotto could have doubled up on his jab and not move backwards, instead, by side stepping and turning he would have saved much more energy. But he didn't loose because he ran out of gas.

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  seriously.. I dont think there is another Welter Weight in the whole world who could have eaten the punches margarito ate for 6 rounds.. and still come out in the 7th.. Anybody else would have been KO'd ... So all Cotto could do differently is try to survive.. instead of attacking.. but then he would lose on points.. If you cant keep Margarito off you, You are ****ed.. as sure as the sun will rise.. you are ****ed..

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                  • Mojita
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                    Originally posted by rambov
                    There was nothing Cotto could have done. He threw his best punches at Magarito's head and body. In the end, Magarito broke his will. Cotto fought to his last breath and when he took his final knee he was a beaten man physically and in spirit. He lost to someone who wanted to win more than he did and that's one of the worst losses a man can get cause it ****s up your mental.

                    If anything Cotto could have doubled up on his jab and not move backwards, instead, by side stepping and turning he would have saved much more energy. But he didn't loose because he ran out of gas.
                    Cotto could barely get to the body which is the reason why he went head hunting alot. He stood on the ropes to long and got paid in the body. If he stays off the ropes and away from the uppercuts he will win the rematch, but I doubt this fight ruins him mentally. He'll come back

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