Why did Floyd duck Mosley?

[warp1432]

I don't know. I just think that at the end of the day, Hatton does more for legacy then Shane would have.

[Spiegelo]

I think Mayweather didnt fight him out of spite, Mayweather was basically begging Mosley for a fight he even called Jin Mosley name's just to get Mosley in the ring but Shane wasnt having it, Now when Mayweather got to the top through oscar Mosley wanted the fight which in turn Mayweather started calling him a sparring partner out of spite.

Anybody that knows boxing would actually know Mayweather didnt duck Mosley

What's with these 'anybody that knows boxing will agree with what I say' posts. I'm not disagreeing with you, but that statement is a bit much under the circumstance. Mayweather was talking about fighting oscar back when he was 135. That didn't mean it was to be taken serious. He also called out Mosley when it was pretty obvious he was getting his oscar fight. Mosley is friends and partners with Oscar, I'm sure he's not dumb enough to get in the way of a fight he has no control of. If you ask me he was walkin the road he was setting for himself while waiting in line after Oscar. Maybe Floyd waited for him to beat Cotto to fight, and when that didn't happen he waited for Cotto to win against Margarito, and now he's just waiting.. Maybe he got comfortable with the Oscar money he received and weas happy with no risk hatton and wants someone like Pacquiao next. None of us know, I certainly wouldn't say Mayweather is ducking anyone, but then again I wouldn't say anyone who knows boxing knows what mayweather is thinking.

[Spiegelo]

I don't know. I just think that at the end of the day, Hatton does more for legacy then Shane would have.

I agree only because there are more dumb bandwagon raving beer chuggin hatton fans than actual boxing fans. But for a boxing fan like myself I'd like to see the higher skill and athleticism matchup between two ATGs. Are you really 15? You sure don't argue like it..

[Ray*]

What's with these 'anybody that knows boxing will agree with what I say' posts. I'm not disagreeing with you, but that statement is a bit much under the circumstance. Mayweather was talking about fighting oscar back when he was 135. That didn't mean it was to be taken serious. He also called out Mosley when it was pretty obvious he was getting his oscar fight. Mosley is friends and partners with Oscar, I'm sure he's not dumb enough to get in the way of a fight he has no control of. If you ask me he was walkin the road he was setting for himself while waiting in line after Oscar. Maybe Floyd waited for him to beat Cotto to fight, and when that didn't happen he waited for Cotto to win against Margarito, and now he's just waiting.. Maybe he got comfortable with the Oscar money he received and weas happy with no risk hatton and wants someone like Pacquiao next. None of us know, I certainly wouldn't say Mayweather is ducking anyone, but then again I wouldn't say anyone who knows boxing knows what mayweather is thinking.

Am not trying to get anyone to agree with me but its common knowledge that Mosley didnt want the Mayweather fight around 2006 for different reasons, So for someone to start a thread and try to turn it around like Mayweather ducked Mosley shows his knowledge of the fight game, Maybe he only started following boxing from 2007 then i can excuse his ignorance.

[Ray*]

I agree only because there are more dumb bandwagon raving beer chuggin hatton fans than actual boxing fans. But for a boxing fan like myself I'd like to see the higher skill and athleticism matchup between two ATGs. Are you really 15? You sure don't argue like it..

I alway wanted to see the Mosley/PBF fight but ego's got in the way of the fight happening, I dont think Mosley ducked PBF he was just pissed off with the way Mayweather went about it at the time.

[Spiegelo]

I alway wanted to see the Mosley/PBF fight but ego's got in the way of the fight happening, I dont think Mosley ducked PBF he was just pissed off with the way Mayweather went about it at the time.

I know mosley didn't duck mayweather, I just think he was told to step aside and let Oscar take the match first. Notice that was a record breaking fight in terms of the money being made. Mosley had a high status, but not the kinda status to interfere with that fight. Oscar is a close friend and is in business with Shane. Not just in business but is practically his boss. He's the owner of the magazine that ranks him, and is the owner of the promotion company that he works for and is also promoted by. Shane was doing his PPV fights raising his status while waiting in line for Floyd, and Floyd decided he was going to wait in turn for Shane to do something big while he took the next big money fight in Hatton.

I dunno these are all just theories and it's like 4am. Got work in the morning, I'm out good talkin to yall peace.

[Spiegelo]

P.S: Glad I'm not the only one that really wanted to see this fight, and glad I'm not the only one that think these fighters didn't duck each other.. I just feel Floyd takes the business side more importantly than the sport.. but then again you can say the same for a man that lets his boss take the most important fight in any division that's available (although it's highly doubtful that shane would have even been allowed to take the fight in my eyes).

[Ray*]

I know mosley didn't duck mayweather, I just think he was told to step aside and let Oscar take the match first. Notice that was a record breaking fight in terms of the money being made. Mosley had a high status, but not the kinda status to interfere with that fight. Oscar is a close friend and is in business with Shane. Not just in business but is practically his boss. He's the owner of the magazine that ranks him, and is the owner of the promotion company that he works for and is also promoted by. Shane was doing his PPV fights raising his status while waiting in line for Floyd, and Floyd decided he was going to wait in turn for Shane to do something big while he took the next big money fight in Hatton.

I dunno these are all just theories and it's like 4am. Got work in the morning, I'm out good talkin to yall peace.

Exactly i couldnt have put it any better.

[El Jesus]

I think Mayweather didnt fight him out of spite, Mayweather was basically begging Mosley for a fight he even called Jin Mosley name's just to get Mosley in the ring but Shane wasnt having it, Now when Mayweather got to the top through oscar Mosley wanted the fight which in turn Mayweather started calling him a sparring partner out of spite.

Anybody that knows boxing would actually know Mayweather didnt duck Mosley

I remember this, basically after the second Vargas fight Mayweather was trying to get 3 fights, Mosley, Hatton and then Spinks. Mosley flatout turned him down and mayweather said some **** like "i want the fight with shane, so let me call up the head of the household, jin mosley"

Hatton said he was going to defend against Oktay urkal and then proceeded to vacate and return to 140. Spinks fight fell through and i think the negative outcry really hurt that fight from happening. Infact, i remember when the fight was made, people were whining that he was ducking carlos baldomir who was fresh off a knockout of arturo gatti. Basically the Spinks fight would have probably been a better, more entertaining fight than the baldomir fight but the negative outcry was too harsh.

Mosley ducked mayweather twice, the first time i understand, since it was high risk/low reward at 135, the second time was in many ways, inexcusable "my tooth hurts" whatever.

[Ray*]

I remember this, basically after the second Vargas fight Mayweather was trying to get 3 fights, Mosley, Hatton and then Spinks. Mosley flatout turned him down and mayweather said some **** like "i want the fight with shane, so let me call up the head of the household, jin mosley"

Hatton said he was going to defend against Oktay urkal and then proceeded to vacate and return to 140. Spinks fight fell through and i think the negative outcry really hurt that fight from happening. Infact, i remember when the fight was made, people were whining that he was ducking carlos baldomir who was fresh off a knockout of arturo gatti. Basically the Spinks fight would have probably been a better, more entertaining fight than the baldomir fight but the negative outcry was too harsh.

Mosley ducked mayweather twice, the first time i understand, since it was high risk/low reward at 135, the second time was in many ways, inexcusable "my tooth hurts" whatever.

Yeah i remember the outcry when PBF was going to fight Spinks at 154 after beating Judah, They accuse him of ducking a real welterweight in baldomir at the time and even brian Kinney was berating Mayweather for not fighting Baldomir..How time changes..Mosley didnt want to fight PBF for whatever reason to him but to try and suggest Mayweather ducked Mosley like the thread starter tries to imply shows he only started following boxing around 2007.