3 weeks and still no official PPV numbers

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That's why Dan Rafael confirmed it did well over 400k??

Rafael did not "confirm" anything. Post DR's quote. I dare you.

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That's why Dan Rafael confirmed it did well over 400k??

Because your dumb ass deserves to be clowned, here is the Rafael quote:


The numbers are not official yet, but everyone associated with last week's tremendous Antonio Margarito-Miguel Cotto welterweight championship fight expects the pay-per-view numbers to be excellent.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum and HBO PPV haven't released official sales totals yet because the final tally is not in yet, but both believed it would do better than initially anticipated.

Arum, who said he needed around 225,000 buys to break even, was virtually walking on air the other day when we spoke about the performance of the pay-per-view.

That is your idea of "Rafael confirmed"?? Moron.

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Because your dumb ass deserves to be clowned, here is the Rafael quote:


The numbers are not official yet, but everyone associated with last week's tremendous Antonio Margarito-Miguel Cotto welterweight championship fight expects the pay-per-view numbers to be excellent.

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum and HBO PPV haven't released official sales totals yet because the final tally is not in yet, but both believed it would do better than initially anticipated.

Arum, who said he needed around 225,000 buys to break even, was virtually walking on air the other day when we spoke about the performance of the pay-per-view.

That is your idea of "Rafael confirmed"?? Moron.

just to make your dumb ass look ******, Charley Murphy:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201873&highlight=cotto+margarito+numbers

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You can keep sucking the fat man's ****. Here is what he said a month earlier about Arum's reliability with numbers:


Arum the optimist

Wednesday, July 9, 2008 | Print Entry


Posted by Dan Rafael

Your weekly random thoughts …

• Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told me the other day the Manny Pacquiao-David Diaz lightweight title bout did between 225,000 and 250,000 buys on HBO PPV. To put it nicely, Arum is ever the optimist. I asked industry folks who are far less prone to exaggeration than Arum and was told that the fight will be lucky to crack 200,000. Lucky. It just goes to show you that no matter how great Pacquiao is, without a known foil he can't do serious business on his own.

Pacquiao's pay-per-view fights with more established stars Erik Morales (a trilogy), Juan Manuel Marquez and Marco Antonio Barrera all did excellent business. But Diaz, as likeable as he is, was a huge underdog and had never been on HBO before being put into a major pay-per-view main event. Despite tireless efforts promoting the fight, doing interviews and making public appearances, Diaz was essentially an unknown, even though he held a title.

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You provided ZERO facts. You made an assumption.

And the Rafael numbers that you are referring to is a CLEAR attribution to Arum. Rafael even said that Arum was the source. And Arum has a PROVEN history of exaggerating PPV buys.

Your post makes ZERO SENSE in the context that the Cotto-Margarito double-header (for FREE) on WCB was the lowest rated WCB broadcast of all time. Is that consistent with Cotto's "increasing" popularity and margarito's "cult-like" status?

LMAO. Don't clown yourself. You are out of your depth on the business side.

FYI: Cotto-Malignaggi did approx 95K. That may be "reasonable" in your book. It was a disappointment to all others concerned. Thus, the reason that Cotto fought Quintana on WHICH network? Remind me.

First of all, I dare you to poll ANYONE on this site. Ask them if they knew about Malignaggi BEFORE THAT FIGHT. That's reasonable. Someone once told the number, but I forget it now. I know it's far less than 95K to start turning a profit on PPVs.

Furthermore, I don't give a **** what network Cotto fought Quintana on. I didn't mention a non-PPV event. It doesn't add or subtract to THIS conversation.

In terms of the Margarito cult-like following...

cult-like : 5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book) ; especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion.

Who's fanbase does that sound like?

The double header was low because one guy was fighting someone that no one really gave a chance. While the other guy fought someone he had already beaten decisively.

For the record, the majority of the fans who ordered, I'd assume are Puerto Rican and Mexican. I doubt most of those same fans have HBO, perhaps due to the cost or due to where they live. I do know they'll find a way to order a fight on PPV. I have Mexican family members, and I know plenty of Puerto Rican people who would help me prove this point.

All indicators point towards it being ATLEAST above 300K. You just decide that it's under and that argument is to have the same merit? LMAO.

You might possibly be right (you're not), but if you are. Your assertion is still far less warrented.

I'm using information given, history and realistic viewpoints.

Your using a pair of Floyd Mayweathers sunglasses.

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a usually small group of people [/COLOR]characterized by such devotion.
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Margarito-Gomez: 30,000 PPV buys. Small is right.

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You might possibly be right (you're not), but if you are. Your assertion is still far less warrented.

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Tell ya what: You say 450K. i say 300K.

Let's wager. We see who's closer. i will bookmark this page. Loser leaves the forum for good.

Deal?

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Margarito-Gomez: 30,000 PPV buys. Small is right.

If Cotto could draw roughly 250K-260K.. wouldn't that 30K roughly, put him over 300K if you consider that this fight was a BIT bigger than both had been in, in terms of TRUE anticipation?

By the way, I'd have hoped you were a bit bigger then 'smiley wars'.

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I don't think it did great but it must have done ok. Maybe between 300-350

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If Cotto could draw roughly 250K-260K.. wouldn'y that 30K roughly, put him over 300K if you consider that this fight was a BIT bigger than both had been in, i terms of TRUE anticipation?

Post # 27. Do you want to take the bet? Neither of us can EVER come back under an alt.