Who's a Better Fighter: Pavlik or Kessler?

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  • KJB
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    #51
    Originally posted by Sergei23
    Pavlik has the better resume...but I think Kessler is the better fighter

    Kessler/Pavlik Breakdown


    Speed - Kessler

    Power - Pavlik

    Footwork - Kessler

    Jab - Kessler

    Chin - Even

    Heart - Pavlik

    Workrate - Pavlik

    Combinations - Kessler

    Left Hook - Kessler

    Athleticism - Kessler
    No, power goes to Pavlik, and Kesslers chin is not tested enough to compare with Pavlik. Frankly, Kessler isnt tested enough to compare to Pavlik.

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    • abadger
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      #52
      Originally posted by danc1984
      I think you overrate Mikkel's resume a little badger. Kelly's is not fantastic either but in my view having Taylor times 2 on it does make it a lot better than Kessler's. Kessler's best win is Mundine. His other notable wins are Andrade (tough but ordinary), Beyer (an overprotected fighter who did not even go out there to win the fight anyway), Siaca (a reasonable but very beatable fighter), Lucas (similar to Siaca in that he is reasonable but very beatable) and Sartison. This is not the resume of a borderline top 10 p4p figher in my view.
      As I said, Taylor is just ONE opponent. One opponent is not grounds to say that one guys record is much better. Kessler's list from Siaca to Andrade is better than Pavlik's previous to Taylor easily.

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      • abadger
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        #53
        Originally posted by KJB
        No, power goes to Pavlik, and Kesslers chin is not tested enough to compare with Pavlik. Frankly, Kessler isnt tested enough to compare to Pavlik.
        Kessler isn't tested? Did you forget about the time he fought todays P4P#2 fighter and was probably his best ever opponent?

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        • Dambala
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          #54
          Overall, Kessler is better, but I think, right now Pavlik is unbeatable. Actually I'm not a fan of Kelly, I'd like Calzaghe to beat him, but won't happen.

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          • abadger
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dambala
            Overall, Kessler is better, but I think, right now Pavlik is unbeatable. Actually I'm not a fan of Kelly, I'd like Calzaghe to beat him, but won't happen.
            So what happens if Pavlik and Kessler fight? The world collapses into an impossibility vortex?

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            • Dan...
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              #56
              Originally posted by abadger
              So what happens if Pavlik and Kessler fight? The world collapses into an impossibility vortex?
              **** that is funny. I laughed when I read his original post too. I was like, wtf, that sounds like it would be one hell of a fight.

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                #57
                Originally posted by abadger
                Have you ever even seen Kessler fight?

                Its ludicrous that you are unable to notice that Kessler is faster and more skilful than Pavlik by a country mile.
                So was Taylor...

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                • dstew
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by abadger
                  Kessler isn't tested? Did you forget about the time he fought todays P4P#2 fighter and was probably his best ever opponent?
                  And here's the "Kessler's biggest accomplishment is his loss to the great Calzaghe" argument again... hahaha.

                  Did you know that Japan's biggest victory was its loss to the U.S. in WWII? Only nuclear weapons could defeat it. It got blowed the **** up, but still...

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                  • dstew
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    As I said, Taylor is just ONE opponent. One opponent is not grounds to say that one guys record is much better. Kessler's list from Siaca to Andrade is better than Pavlik's previous to Taylor easily.
                    I'm not a boxer, but I would imagine it's more difficult to beat one really good fighter than it is to beat a few OK fighters.

                    Plus Pavlik is looking to add another decent name to his resume, then another, and another... and who exactly is Kessler planning to fight next? Was it the baker or the candlestick maker?

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                    • abadger
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by dstew
                      I'm not a boxer, but I would imagine it's more difficult to beat one really good fighter than it is to beat a few OK fighters.

                      Plus Pavlik is looking to add another decent name to his resume, then another, and another... and who exactly is Kessler planning to fight next? Was it the baker or the candlestick maker?
                      You is a biased Yank. PWN

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