Whos the greatest fighter of all time?

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<--------- this guy is underrated IMO marvin marvelous haggler

Hagler was da man. And one of the best middleweights ever but I don't think he's best. People show Hagler respect. Nowadays who doesn't give Hagler credit?

[realheavyhands]

duran and archie moore fought till they were 50 and were winning almost all there fights

[EliteSoldier]

I am

[benjy07]

i think sugar ray robinson

[CoLd_WaVE]

I am

you got my vote....

[niceguy45]

Hagler was da man. And one of the best middleweights ever but I don't think he's best. People show Hagler respect. Nowadays who doesn't give Hagler credit?

well he was underrated though and he is my favorite of all,
but SRL is up there too....just great over all popular, gold medalist he had it all what haggler never had....star power......thats another thing in the ring and outside the ring is two different things, outside he ring maybe ALI is my favorite

[Panamaniac]

This guy is underrated IMO: Marvin Marvelous Haggler

It's one thing to be underrated, it's quite another to be the greatest fighter of all times. This thread is about the latter...

BTW, Marvelous before Marvin; he legally changed his first name to the former.

[amagnin]

Some favor the classics, others pick the more recent but it really is a question of who is or was the greatest fighter of all time. Some may argue that Sugar Ray Robinson dominated in his time, he made it big and dominated the 40's 50's and some of the 60's containing a record of 175-19 (fairly impressive i believe). Others may argue that Rocky Marciano should hold that place as history's greatest with an astonishing record of 49-0. There may even be others who come close to this sort of glory but only one sticks out in my mind, Muhammad Ali. Ali is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing, he's strategic, ****y, inteligent, used a cool head and a fast heart and even if he felt like **** still faught with a smile on his face just to make the other contendor feel intimidated. Many may be disscouraged that im even stating this, that im expressing my views on this but i dont believe im wrong. Try and prove me wrong, who is better than Ali? aubviously nobody.

I think Ali is a great fighter but by that same token he is one of the most overrated figures in boxing history. What he did for the sport will never be equalled but if we confine our inquiry to what happened in the ring he isn't even top 5 (imo). He received several beneficial decisions because he was "the greatest" and the whole Sonny Liston fiasco still doesn't sit right with me. Beating Foreman was probably the most significant moment in boxing history but lets not forget that Ali lost to Frazier, and Ken Norton not so long before. In the end who did he really beat to be considered the best ever...Frazier and Foreman are the only 2 world class fighters he beat in their prime. Norton was a good but not great fighter; Patterson was old; Chevalo and Foley were serviceable. And I refuse to ignore the fact that he decided to continue to fight and lost to Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick. Yes Sugar Ray Robinson lost to some average fighters at the end of his career but he HAD to fight for money and Ali chose to continue.

[Nostromo]

Top 10*

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Joe Louis
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Mike Tyson
6. Roberto Duran
7. Sugar Ray Leonard
8. Julio Cesar Chavez
9. Larry Holmes
10. Carlos Monzon

*In their prime

[kryo]

For me it's a tough call to make. If one factors off-the-ring persona into one's choice, then, yes, Ali, is far and away the greatest. But if one limits one's evaluation to accomplishments in the ring, Marciano, who retired undefeated tops the list. Sugar Ray Robinson may arguably be the best, having been dominant in three divisions although the best of his performance was at welter. Then, there's Armstrong whose record of holding titles SIMULTANEOUSLY in different divisions has not been close to being repeated, much less made better. But when/if more weight is given to defense, nobody touches the "Wil o' the Wisp" Pep. A story continues to circulate that Pep won a round without throwing a punch. Dunno if that's true. You guys make the call...

You can watch the entire round on youtube, go find it. It's true.