Does Joan Guzman have the makings to be a great?

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  • adamk1304
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    #11
    If he starts fighting more than once a year then maybe.

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    • Joe2608
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sin City
      ugh.. he had all that before he even trained with Mayweather Sr..
      He could've been great, unfortunately he couldn't get the fights he wanted in his youth do to problems with promoters and such.
      He could still make a good career out of his situation though.
      I think realistically, he has 2 options. He can keep working his way up and be a 4/maybe 5 division world champ without spending much time in each division OR he can stay in one (say 135) and fight all the big fights available there, he already has Campbell but there's others like Pacquiao (rejected the DLH fight), winner of Diaz-Katsidis, winner of JMM-Casamayor, maybe even give a boxing lesson to Amir Khan.

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      • Chunk..
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        #13
        Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
        Wank Warren, some bull**** to do with his visa
        What for Scotland?

        A passport usually does the job, correct me if am wrong?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Chunk
          What for Scotland?

          A passport usually does the job, correct me if am wrong?
          I would think so. But apperntly not, I heard that all the visa issue would mean was that Joan would have arrived 1 day later than he was meant to,

          It was bull****. Wank knew Joan would beat Arthur, so he kept ****ing around until Guzman vacated and the title was given to Arthur. Classic Wank.

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          • Heru
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            He didn't get a title at 126 because Harrison was always postponing and holding the belt hostage with all his problems. So he moved up since he almost always struggles with weight going upto 17 pounds the day after the weigh-in in some fights. He is 32, but, I doubt he has 6-8 years left after 320 amateur bouts (they do take something out of you), 28 fights pro fights against hard punchers, and years of sparring against mostly welterweights and much bigger guys.

            Guzman does have the makings to be great, all he needs, are the opponents for him to prove it. His style fast, elusive, great defense, footwork, chin, stamina, and versatility gives him a great shot at anyone in the nearby divisions. A win over Campbell would be a big step toward greatness since he will have 3 of the 4 major titles in the lightweight division (6 in 3 divisions), a win over the winner of Casamayor-Marquez would be a great next step, and Pacquiao or Hatton would make him a first ballot hall of famer and a boxing star.

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            • ИATAS
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              #16
              Originally posted by Chunk
              What for Scotland?

              A passport usually does the job, correct me if am wrong?
              Frank Warren. The visa issue was a non problem. The truth of the matter was he had a visa problem that delayed his original flight, he caught a later flight within 24 hours. He was still in Scotland 11 days prior to the fight so there was no reason for the fight to be canceled.

              I followed this situation very closely. Guzman was pissed the fight was canceled. Frank Warren said they were having problems figuring out a new date and left Guzman waiting for two weeks, which obviously is tough for Guzman since he loses weight prior to the fight. So eventually he said **** waiting I'm going to 135.

              My su****ion on what happened though, which is totally unproven, but I think Frank Warren was protecting his fighter, Alex Arthur and didn't want to see him lose. He makes a deal with Guzman, saying "look, we cancel this fight and I make sure the WBO makes you the #1 contender at 135 and you'll get a crack at Nate Campbells belt." Guzman takes the deal and Arthur gets to become champion without even stepping into the ring. Frank Warren is shady like that!

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              • Heru
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                #17
                Originally posted by mellow_mood
                he should try to get under another pro company .. imo... that would help him to build more his name..
                Unfortunately, he re-signed with Seminole Warriors boxing for some reason, bad move IMO. Golden Boy was his co-promoter til that contract ended with the Soto fight, Top Rank wanted to co-promote him after that, which would have been an excellent move and an eventual shot at Pacquiao, but, I have not heard anything about it afterwards.
                Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
                I would think so. But apperntly not, I heard that all the visa issue would mean was that Joan would have arrived 1 day later than he was meant to,

                It was bull****. Wank knew Joan would beat Arthur, so he kept ****ing around until Guzman vacated and the title was given to Arthur. Classic Wank.
                Warren knew Guzman had trouble getting to and staying at 130 weight, which is why he postponed the fight disguising it as visa problems, and one month later did not provide a new date for the fight.

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                • Joe2608
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                  Unfortunately, he re-signed with Seminole Warriors boxing for some reason, bad move IMO. Golden Boy was his co-promoter til that contract ended with the Soto fight, Top Rank wanted to co-promote him after that, which would have been an excellent move and an eventual shot at Pacquiao, but, I have not heard anything about it afterwards
                  I was going to say, he really should have stuck with Golden Boy, maybe even Top Rank, either one would have got him better opportunities.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Joe2608
                    He's 32 so he could keep going successfully for another 6-8 years imo.
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                    ..... a 38-40 year old natural SFW? Seriously?

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                    • Joe2608
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                      #20
                      He has showed no signs of aging, he is in his prime now i don't see why he won't be fighting 6 years from now, especially when he has just started getting the biggest fights of his career.

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