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  • #21
    Originally posted by Winter View Post
    Maybe Hopkins doesnt like Calzaghe so much, that he is ready to lose to Pavlik, and pass his torch to Pavlik.

    Not that he is going to lose on purpose, but if he should lose, he wants Pavlik to look very good, and perhaps revenge his loss to Calzaghe later in the future. This is the way Hopkins can make Calzaghe look worse.
    No.

    Taylor took the torch from Hopkins.

    Pavlik took the torch from Taylor.

    Now Hopkins wants his mutha****in torch back.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Kball15 View Post
      I'm convinced that HOPKINS sees something in Pavlik that would allow Hopkins to win impressively, and thats why he is being so nice.

      And he is saying a lot of good things about Pavlik, and hyping him up. Probably in the hopes that he get more credit if he gets the impressive victory.
      I think he thinks he sees big vulnerabilities, which is what we all think. Pav can look slow and clumsy in the ring. All his opponents think they can exploit it. When they get in the ring though, they quickly realize Pavlik is a different beast than they thought.

      Long Armed Straight Punching in Bunches is a hard thing to overcome. Hopkins I think will try one of two things.

      1: He will either try to move to his left like crazy against Pavlik to take his right hand away. He will have some success with it, but he will have to stop to get his own right hand off, which will leave him vulnerable.

      2: He will try to get inside and mug Pavlik, which might work, but Pav seems to like mugging on the inside himself (Miranda) and there is no way Hopkins can mantain that for 12 rounds.

      His best bet would be to try to get to Pavlik early, hurt him and cut him and work on that.

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      • #23
        Here is my take on this:
        Hopkins wants to go out on top...he literally CANNOT accept defeat.
        Even when the decision goes against him he doesnt accept it and his ego somewhat justifiably is HUGE.
        Hopkins has never ever ever accepted his losses to Jermain Taylor....he hates it.
        The entre' is being set whereby Bernard Hopkins can get revenge against Taylor by beating the man who beat him AND he can regain the middleweight title.
        That to me is VERY compelling.
        Hopkins does things that Taylor does not do like fight well on the inside,hold,ect.....
        He is BY FAR the most experience boxer Pavlik has or ever arguably will face.
        And just a few short years ago Hopkins was the P4P king.
        I say Hopkins has a chance to win because his ego is fed off of being "immortal".
        Never count Bernard Hopkins OUT!
        Last edited by The Slickster; 08-11-2008, 12:00 PM. Reason: grammer

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        • #24
          It could be, you never know, but I honestly don't think so.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Kball15 View Post
            I'm convinced that HOPKINS sees something in Pavlik that would allow Hopkins to win impressively, and thats why he is being so nice.

            And he is saying a lot of good things about Pavlik, and hyping him up. Probably in the hopes that he get more credit if he gets the impressive victory.
            I think hopkins thinks he has too much speed for pavlik, where as calzaghe had fast hands cause he slaps.

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            • #26
              Hopkins is getting KO'd

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              • #27
                Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                I agree, He seems to know something is there that he might be able to take advantage of.
                Hopkins feels as though Pavlik is STILL green! he won't bad mouth Kelly and inspire the younger stronger kid, but he's going to praise him and even go as far to say that Pavlik has the heart of a Philly fighter!! Hopkins is a master mind at winning the mental war its just the physical part of the wars he's been slackin' due to father time! but I think its Kelly's resume that B-Hop is lookin at.....JT fought the wrong fight on the night Kelly became a star! Miranda was there to be hit.....so Hopkins feels as though noone that Kelly has fought has the ring intellect of a Bernard Hopkins! both JT and Miranda were offensive dudes with huge defensive flaws. Pavlik works off of his jab(his range finder) then drops the right like that bomb that hit Hiroshima...he drops to the body once in a while.....but thats it! Calzaghe had more of an offensive arsenal....while Kelly is straight 1-2 all night! Calzaghe could punch off angles and that kept Bernard defensive....Kelly is not as mobile as Joe so Bernard shouldn't tire in this one....Joe's mobility didn't allow Hopkins a chance to breathe......his hand speed was a step up from what he was used to facing and that too kept B-Hop defensive.....but Kelly doesn't present those problems for Hopkins.....Kelly's claim to fame is his POWER.....it's not IMPOSSIBLE to negate that in the ring!!!

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                • #28
                  I think so also.

                  I also don't think Hopkins has enough gas in the tank to pull it off.

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                  • #29
                    He probably thinks Pavlik wont be as effective against a guy who uses a lot of movement and gives a lot of angles. He sees a different version of Tito Trinidad. I think Pavlik is pretty smart though. Basic, but smart. He'll find ways to time his punches and hit Hopkins. He wont just smother him and throw a bunch of meaningless punches like Calzaghe did. Which worked for Joe, but he almost lost.

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                    • #30
                      He is just a fighter... and fighters fight. That is why he wants Pavlik. I don't think he sees something we don't.

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