Charley Burley would have been pound for pound #1 if he fought today

[warp1432]

Smith did quite a bit of chasing Burley around the ring. They felt each other out for the first few rounds (where I bet you stopped watching), but Burley really laid it on him in rounds 7 and 9. Burley mostly threw his left, but it's obvious Burley carried him. You can still see the obvious potential in the great fighter he was.

Oh and saying Mayorga would beat them is laughable. Mayorga might be able to beat smith, but Burley's defense was unreal and his chin probably was too since he faced Archie Moore (most knockouts) and Ezzard Charles, who killed someone in the ring.

edit: Forgot to mention another thing that impressed me about Burley is how well he fainted. It'd always seem to throw Smith out of position and Burley then would hit with the right.

[Silencers]

Burley was also very good at changing the angles on his punches, his punches came at different angles.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Charlie Burely is actually from my current town of Pittburgh Pennsylvania. Him, Fritzi Zivic, Billy Conn and plenty of other great fighters. Many other good fighters that are from here is Monty Meza Clay, Paul Spadofora, Danny Mitchell who i have met personally(and his son Danial Mitchell who is a very hot prospect but has been inactive for various reasons), Carl Sullivan and many other very good fighters.

According to my bible of boxing, Burely is the fourth greatest welterweight of all time and Ray Robinson clearly wanted no part of him.

''Burely was a man who trouced future light heavyweight great Archie Moore, and it turn, was twice beaten by future world heavyweight champion Ezzard Charles. The other thing he is famous for is being avoided at middlweight by the rising Sugar Ray Robinson and by every other 160-pound title claimant of his era. All of this is true, but what is less widely known is that for his first 6 years of his brilliant 14 year career, the 5'9 Burely was a welterweight, coming in between 145 and 150 pounds on no fewer than 38 occasions. Even when he moved up to middlweight he was on the small side. For instance, weighing just 151 pounds for his second fight against Charles( nine lighter than Ezzard).''

''Burely was an outstanding all-rounder-master of self defense, extremely well schooled, tricky, heavy handed, very versatile, and accurate. He was a precision puncher with perfect timing, and also owned one helluva chin. Archie Moore described him as the finest fighter he ever faced, and many who saw him in action agreed.''

[BennyST]

It's funny how most people think of the older fighters as crude clubber types when in fact they actually had probably more science to their fighting than most fighters today do. The majority of fighters had greater all body defense and what most people today know as the 'Mayweather' style of defense was used very widely back then by a lot of fighters.

Feints, all body defense, inside tactics all seemed to be used a lot more than most fighters today do. I guess the emphasis is now more on strength, power punching etc. You just have to look at footage of some of the old great fighters to see how amazingly smart they were in the ring. Setting traps and fighting much more patiently with feints etc was a trade mark of the great fighters back then.

Burley was truly a master of all of the above. Great fighter.

[Domain]

Smith did quite a bit of chasing Burley around the ring. They felt each other out for the first few rounds (where I bet you stopped watching), but Burley really laid it on him in rounds 7 and 9. Burley mostly threw his left, but it's obvious Burley carried him. You can still see the obvious potential in the great fighter he was.

Oh and saying Mayorga would beat them is laughable. Mayorga might be able to beat smith, but Burley's defense was unreal and his chin probably was too since he faced Archie Moore (most knockouts) and Ezzard Charles, who killed someone in the ring.

edit: Forgot to mention another thing that impressed me about Burley is how well he fainted. It'd always seem to throw Smith out of position and Burley then would hit with the right.

stop overating these olden times fighters!
I seen what I seen and they both looked equal you act like the guy looked like sugar ray robinson or willie pep or something.
not impressive to me and many of these olden fighters never faced superior aggression with crazy style like a pacquiao, mayorga, or tyson.

[warp1432]

stop overating these olden times fighters!
I seen what I seen and they both looked equal you act like the guy looked like sugar ray robinson or willie pep or something.
not impressive to me and many of these olden fighters never faced superior aggression with crazy style like a pacquiao, mayorga, or tyson.

Two words: Fritzie Zivic, this guy was one dirty mother ****er. A lot of the older fighters had agression like a mayorga and Zivic was one of them. Archie Moore might be one of the strongest punchers in history.


Also they were even? What fight were you watching? Charley dominated and toyed with him. Burley might be up there with Robinson and Pep. He was rated 4 best Welterweight and 6 best middleweight by the ring. He also was voted the 39th best fighter in the last 80 years (from 2002).

Burley was an ATG. I'm curious about the guy that beat him 3 times, Holman Williams.

[Monticello]

No, jusst no. Good fighter, but wouldn't be the p4p best fighter.