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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    We should go back to same day weigh-ins, problem solved. Then you wouldn't have freaks that have a full day or more to rehydrate 15 - 20 lbs.
    like that'll stop people from weight draining.

    the only result is more deaths and serious brain injury.

    they should have the weigh ins a few days or a week ahead of time if anything.

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    • Live Dog
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      #22
      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
      We should go back to same day weigh-ins, problem solved. Then you wouldn't have freaks that have a full day or more to rehydrate 15 - 20 lbs.
      Although two different sports, I wrestled for 11 years and most weigh ins were held about two hours before the tourney/meet and everyone still cut massive amounts of weight.

      Long story short, it would not change a thing.

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      • RMAcero
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        #23
        If you can make the weight, then you deserve to be in that division. If you can't, then move up.

        1. Ray Robinson
        2. Henry Armstrong
        3. Thomas Hearns
        4. Sugar Ray Leonard
        5. Pernell Whitaker
        6. Kid Gavilan
        7. Jose Napoles
        8. Emile Griffith
        9. Mickey Walker
        10. Luis Rodriguez

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        • ИATAS
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          #24
          Originally posted by Slotff
          1. Golden Johnson
          2. Oscar de la Hoya
          3. Manny Pacquiao
          4. Harold Ledderman
          5. There is no #5
          6. See number 8
          7. See number 6
          8. See number 7
          9. Paulie Malignaggi
          10. Crazy Kim.
          this list is an absolute ****in joke, man. I hate when people on this board act childish and make a mockery of our sport. Ok, what you need to do is swap #10 with #1, then #2 with #8. Then it's perfect.

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          • Mo Leicester
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            #25
            Originally posted by RMAcero
            If you can make the weight, then you deserve to be in that division. If you can't, then move up.

            1. Ray Robinson
            2. Henry Armstrong
            3. Thomas Hearns
            4. Sugar Ray Leonard
            5. Pernell Whitaker
            6. Kid Gavilan
            7. Jose Napoles
            8. Emile Griffith
            9. Mickey Walker
            10. Luis Rodriguez

            Nice list, top 2 would be same as mine.

            Can't believe no one has mentioned Fritzie Zivic. Not the greatest ever but would make into my top10 purely because of the fighters he fought and beat.

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            • LEFTYGUNZZ
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              #26
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              I just dont get this...

              he ll be ranked higher as long as he doesnt fight his biggest threat? and gets more wins?
              Because I saw the first fight and I didn't find it entertaining sir. I thought MArgarito vs Cotto was much more entertaining then Marg vs Williams. i thought Mosely vs Cotto was more entertaining as well....I saw Williams fight a few times and I don't find his fights to be very entertaining. I see him and Clottey in the same class BORING!!!!

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              • Da7thsign
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                #27
                Thomas Hearns
                Ray Leonard
                Pernell Whitaker
                Oscar De la Hoya
                Shane Mosely
                Felix Trinidad
                Antonio Margarito
                Luis Collazo
                Miguel Cotto
                Paul Williams

                these are the only ones that ive actually seen fight at the weight so in my opinion these are the best to be. Havent seen too many of the older fighters so this list is going to change eventually in my mind.

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                • BennyST
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by luckylefty731
                  I don't see paul Williams as a true Welter Weight to me he is a FREAK and I have stated it before.
                  You don't see him as a true WW? He has fought there his whole career. You could say a similar thing about Margarito. He's not that much smaller than Williams and his height advantage over Cotto was monstrous so does that mean you shouldn't take that win as a real win?

                  So, while it's fair that Marg stands head and shoulders above most fighters in the WW division, it is not okay that Williams can be a tiny bit taller than him and that because of that he shouldn't be regarded as a real WW?

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                  • BennyST
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Da7thsign
                    Thomas Hearns
                    Ray Leonard
                    Pernell Whitaker
                    Oscar De la Hoya
                    Shane Mosely
                    Felix Trinidad
                    Antonio Margarito
                    Luis Collazo
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Paul Williams

                    these are the only ones that ive actually seen fight at the weight so in my opinion these are the best to be. Havent seen too many of the older fighters so this list is going to change eventually in my mind.

                    You do realise how this looks? You know it's the best ever? Didn't Collazo only win a title and keep it for about one or two fights? How the hell can you have Marg, Collazo, Cotto and Williams in that list? That's just demented!

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                    • KostyaTszyu44
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      like that'll stop people from weight draining.

                      the only result is more deaths and serious brain injury.

                      they should have the weigh ins a few days or a week ahead of time if anything.
                      a week before the fight????????

                      then paul williams would probably come in at 170 lbs, thats crazy ****

                      we need same day weigh ins, its not fair for small guys at the weight to be fighting monsters that drain down to the weight

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