Why did Hopkins choose opponents from smaller weight classes?

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  • T-97
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    #51
    Originally posted by natas206
    God, why do people mention the robert allen trilogy? Robert Allen was the #1 contender, he was hopkins mandatory fight. The first fight was a NC after a few rounds and they had to reschedule. Hopkins whooped his ass. 5 YEARS LATER and after Allen worked his way back up to the #1 spot he once again became a mandatory fight. Hopkins beats him again.



    The same could be said about Roy - if he wanted the rematch it could have happened. They never agreed on the financial, blame both not bhop.
    LOL, by the time hopkins and toney could have fought toney was a cruiserweight. The last time toney fought at middleweight was 1992. in 1994 he lost to roy jones at supermiddleweight, immediately after he went up to light heavyweight and lost to Montell Griffin. The fight was never a possibility.

    And michael nunn where does that come from? From 1994 to 2002 he was fighting between 168 and damn near 200 pounds.

    So? Why didn't he fight at light heavyweight?

    It was also a tougher era. But let me ask you, who are the biggest names on on Haglers resume? Let's see, Tommy Hearns, Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard. Hmm, all three are "smaller" opponents. Is that his fault? No, just so happens those were the three biggest names of that time. Who are the biggest names of Hopkins times? de la hoya and trinidad. Fascinating.

    Now obviously Hagler has the more impressive resume, but hopkins, like hagler, fought everyone they through in front of him and worked hard for years before getting big fights. You cant fault hopkins for that.
    Oh ****,

    I love you natas

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      #52
      Originally posted by Blue Öyster

      i mean look at the way hes celebrating after he beat tito, you would think he just went up to heavyweight and knocked out a prime mike tyson!!!!
      Why the hell wouldn't he celebrate? Tito was a middleweight champion, a 6-1 favorite to beat hopkins and to date that was by far the biggest fight of Hopkins career, not too mention his biggest payday. That fight put him on the map and was what was responsible for setting up other future paydays like a bout with oscar de la hoya, etc.

      Man, people are hella ******. Think about it - if you were a middleweight champion that owned three out of four belts, the other belt belonged to an undefeated HUGE mega star and you have the opportunity to fight him on PPV and make more money then you've ever made before in your life, would you not be happy to win the fight, or would you be sad and cry because some internet dork would criticize you for it 7 years later? Maybe you would choose the latter but then again, you were never a hall of fame world champion fighter that made millions of dollars either.
      Last edited by ИATAS; 08-07-2008, 12:04 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Blue Öyster
        the guys a natural light heavy that feels the need to beat up super featherweights, shot welterweights and a whole bunch of shop worn light
        middles!!! the bum even used to call out a shot pernel!!!

        if that isn't mentally weak, what is??????


        bernard used to pick on smaller and older fighters because he is a coward!!!



        i mean look at the way hes celebrating after he beat tito, you would think he just went up to heavyweight and knocked out a prime mike tyson!!!!

        and lets face it, hopkins style is that of a journeyman!!!

        all he does is clinch, hold and hit and headbutt!!! and once he realises he can't win a fight he just starts spoiling instead of trying to win!!!
        THAT IS THE MENTALITY OF A JOURNEYMAN!!!!
        Good post.

        Hopkins uses holding, clinching and headbutts to compensate for a lack of boxing skills when facing a better fighter like Calzaghe.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Tunney
          Good post.

          Hopkins uses holding and headbutts are to compensate for a lack of boxing ability.
          Your hatred is so funny. Hatred is blinding you.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Tunney

            Hopkins uses holding and headbutts are to compensate for a lack of boxing ability.
            This statement is just plain ignorant. Ask any boxing expert what they think of hopkins' boxing ability and they will tell you they are fantastic. There is a reason hopkins is going to the hall of fame.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Tunney
              Good post.

              Hopkins uses holding, clinching and headbutts to compensate for a lack of boxing skills when facing a better fighter like Calzaghe.
              I love how you completely ignore Calzaghe's low blows and punches to the back and back of the head. I've never seen a bigger Hopkins hater in my life. What's a matter, still salty of a certain comment?

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                #57
                Originally posted by daggum
                now he lets calzaghe do that for him. picking on 40 year old blown up middleweights. you go calzaghe!

                when did i rate calzaghe????????

                and bernard isn'a blown up middleweight he is a light heavy weight that used to come down to middlewieght!!! check his record he started at light heavy!!!

                NEXT TIME CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR ASS!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by natas206
                  God, why do people mention the robert allen trilogy?
                  if you are going to make up lies about how great hopkins title reign was!!
                  people are going to bring up the fact that bernard fought the same light middleweight bum 3 times during that title reign!!

                  they are also going to bring up his "legendary" wins against the likes of..........

                  John David Jackson-who was coming of a lose to a bum with a 9-6 record!
                  Simon Brown-a shot welterweight with 5 losses
                  the legendary William Bo James- as bad a fighter to have ever stepped in the ring!!
                  the amazing Andrew Council-who had already been abused by winky and robert allen at light middle!!!
                  Felix Trinidad- who was a good welter and light middle!!!
                  Oscar De La Hoya- a fighter who started at superfeatherweight!!! LOL!!!


                  Originally posted by natas206
                  LOL, by the time hopkins and toney could have fought toney was a cruiserweight. The last time toney fought at middleweight was 1992. in 1994 he lost to roy jones at supermiddleweight, immediately after he went up to light heavyweight and lost to Montell Griffin. The fight was never a possibility.
                  LOL!!! you really are hilarious!!!

                  it was james toneys vacant title roy and bernard were fighting for!!
                  bernard only dared to make noise about a title shot immediatley AFTER toney vacated
                  his belt!!!
                  he only fought roy becuase roy was green and not considered to be as good as toney yet!!

                  bernard could have gotten a title shot in 1992!! or he could have fought toney in a non title fight in 1991, but he was to afraid!!


                  Originally posted by natas206

                  The same could be said about Roy - if he wanted the rematch it could have happened. They never agreed on the financial, blame both not bhop.
                  RUBBISH!! hopkins was pricing himself out of a showdown!!
                  AND HE ACTUALLY EXPECTED ROY TO COME BACK DOWN IN WEIGHT FOR HIS SORRY ASS!!

                  that is called making unreasonable demands!!!
                  Last edited by Blue Öyster; 08-07-2008, 07:46 PM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by natas206
                    Why the hell wouldn't he celebrate? Tito was a middleweight champion, a 6-1 favorite to beat hopkins and to date that was by far the biggest fight of Hopkins career, not too mention his biggest payday. That fight put him on the map and was what was responsible for setting up other future paydays like a bout with oscar de la hoya, etc.

                    Man, people are hella ******. Think about it - if you were a middleweight champion that owned three out of four belts, the other belt belonged to an undefeated HUGE mega star and you have the opportunity to fight him on PPV and make more money then you've ever made before in your life, would you not be happy to win the fight, or would you be sad and cry because some internet dork would criticize you for it 7 years later? Maybe you would choose the latter but then again, you were never a hall of fame world champion fighter that made millions of dollars either.

                    great post man

                    plain and basic common sense...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Tunney
                      Good post.

                      Hopkins uses holding, clinching and headbutts to compensate for a lack of boxing skills when facing a better fighter like Calzaghe.
                      no he uses that for a lack of being young.. he's old man..damn

                      That straight right landed flsuh on Joey lol

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