Reality Check: Roy Jones Never Ducked Joe Calzaghe

[warp1432]

I liked the WBO bashing. I quite enjoyed that.

For what it's worth, I don't recongize DM or Gonzalez or Erdei as the lineal champ. Why? Because the WBO was no more worth then the IBO is today (ok maybe a little more recognized) and it wasn't a major belt at the time. DM and Hill weren't the top two fighters in the division. Hill was, but Jones was there and probably the number 2 guy.

[Kris Silver]

It's all down to defining duck. Ppl have different interpretations of boxers behaviour, what they should do, and what defines a duck. Nothing here actually demonstrates Roy didn't duck Joe, it just lists some reasons why a fight with Joe didn't make sense of benefit him much. If anything, those are motives to duck, ironically.

I don't really think Roy ducked Joe but no he wasn't exactly really open to fight anyone as he and many often say, but don't mean.

[VanesBoxing]

anyone else pissed at these sort of fights??

where a prime unbeated man of the hour fights a "HAS BEEN" just cuz the guy has a big name...

I really have no interest in watching such fights.. Jones is DONE, retire and move on man.


lets get REAL fights goin...

Abraham vs. Pavlik
Margarito vs. Williams

[Mike_R]

either way you look at it- the fight was there.. and now its only like...half-there

and thats on joe calzaghe. big ****ing surprise.

joe is great- hall of fame style. but if this fight fizzles out... just no excuse for it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The author of this article needs to pack up his bs, travel it a great distance, and unpack it when he gets there, far away from me. im not buying his garbage. give me a break, a slow methodical ruiz a tuffer fight than 2002 bernard hopkins. lmfao. When i look at jones' career, the word that comes to my mind is TRAVESTY. i think of fighters like oscar de la hoya, (who i dont care for at all) never the less who fought everyone from pernell whittaker, to chavez, to mayweather, to trinadad, to mosley, to hopkins, vargas, mayorga, quartey, and on and on. he sought out fights that the fans could get behind, building his legacy that way, and still is in his final boxing days doing it this way, with the names of paquaio, cotto, marguarito, and others being thrown out there for his final fight. to me thats a warrior.

Now try and amass a list of roy jones dandies, and u will find fights against a pre recognized bernard hopkins, a way over the hill undersized tito trinadad, and one very good win over a prime james toney. and then comes antonio tarver, and glenn johnson, of whom he was wasted by. granted i think the weight issues of roy having to lose actual muscle mass was partly responsible in his losses here, never the less he was dropped. to label any others on roys list in my opinion would be a stretch. montell griffin, clinton, paz, No roy it doesnt cut it. roy chose to build his legacy by showing off his ungodly athletism by getting in the ring with inferior opponents, and steering far clear of any battles. or in other words THE FANS FIGHT. so looking back at roy careers, and the fighters he steered away from, its proposterous to say that its not even a possibility to think that he wanted no part of a young, prime calzaghe who has since gone on to greatness, and that is a fact, regardless of what anyone says. He;s undefeated for heavens sake. To know who a fighter steers away from u have to know psychie. and there track record. roys track record speaks for its self, and im pretty sure the author of this article is not busom buddies with roy enough to get that good insight into his true psychie. so once again, to the author, take ur biased RJJ's opinions and try to manipulate lamen boxing fans of the world, i for one am not buying it

Great post.

[Zocalo]

The author of this article needs to pack up his bs, travel it a great distance, and unpack it when he gets there, far away from me. im not buying his garbage. give me a break, a slow methodical ruiz a tuffer fight than 2002 bernard hopkins. lmfao. When i look at jones' career, the word that comes to my mind is TRAVESTY. i think of fighters like oscar de la hoya, (who i dont care for at all) never the less who fought everyone from pernell whittaker, to chavez, to mayweather, to trinadad, to mosley, to hopkins, vargas, mayorga, quartey, and on and on. he sought out fights that the fans could get behind, building his legacy that way, and still is in his final boxing days doing it this way, with the names of paquaio, cotto, marguarito, and others being thrown out there for his final fight. to me thats a warrior.

Now try and amass a list of roy jones dandies, and u will find fights against a pre recognized bernard hopkins, a way over the hill undersized tito trinadad, and one very good win over a prime james toney. and then comes antonio tarver, and glenn johnson, of whom he was wasted by. granted i think the weight issues of roy having to lose actual muscle mass was partly responsible in his losses here, never the less he was dropped. to label any others on roys list in my opinion would be a stretch. montell griffin, clinton, paz, No roy it doesnt cut it. roy chose to build his legacy by showing off his ungodly athletism by getting in the ring with inferior opponents, and steering far clear of any battles. or in other words THE FANS FIGHT. so looking back at roy careers, and the fighters he steered away from, its proposterous to say that its not even a possibility to think that he wanted no part of a young, prime calzaghe who has since gone on to greatness, and that is a fact, regardless of what anyone says. He;s undefeated for heavens sake. To know who a fighter steers away from u have to know psychie. and there track record. roys track record speaks for its self, and im pretty sure the author of this article is not busom buddies with roy enough to get that good insight into his true psychie. so once again, to the author, take ur biased RJJ's opinions and try to manipulate lamen boxing fans of the world, i for one am not buying it

When I read someone actually associating the word TRAVESTY with RRJ career...I think that person shouldn't be allowed to post given the lack of boxing IQ.

It is actually quite enlightening to see how many people actually discredit the fighter of the 90's.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When I read someone actually associating the word TRAVESTY with RRJ career...I think that person shouldn't be allowed to post given the lack of boxing IQ.

It is actually quite enlightening to see how many people actually discredit the fighter of the 90's.

I dont think he meant it like that. Whats a travesty is that Jones often never really tested his immense talents against the best opposition.

[ferocity]

The article forgot to mention that Rid**** Bowe who was WBO champion also had a huge impact on the WBO. And of course reality is thanks to hbo and its fighters who held the wbo. But i wouln't say they are on even term with other organizations. The fighters make the belt.

And add Steve Collins to that list and you forget to mention that Nunn was an OLD Nunn and still Jones avoided him.

And you should of mentioned (but you just hating) that the man to finally beat Darious Michalski was Julio Gonzalez the same one that is fighting this Friday on Espn FNF.

And there was a lot of talk of Calzaghe v. Jones Jr. years ago, none that i really belived from either side.

Fact is Jones Jr. ducked more then 1 fighter. But i wouldn't say he ducked Hopkins that a total laugh.

Whats really funny is how now that Roy has gotten ktfo, he wants to face Calaghe even saying he'd go to Europe to fight him, thats some funny ass ****. Too bad he didn't have the balls in his prime.

I've said it before, Mayweather and Jones Jr. have a very similar reign.

[Knicksman20]

I think it's funny that mostly Cal fans are bashing the writer of the article. The article was based mostly on facts, not personal opinion.And for the record, Jones NEVER ducked Hopkins. Jones was a bigger draw & he held a win over him. Fact is Hopkins needed Jones more than Jones needed him.

[CRESCENDOPOWER]

These are the real facts:
- Roy made the guy who knocked Nunn’s ass out look like a child.
- Steve Collins couldn’t hold Roy’s jock strap.
- If you are pound for pound the best in the world you call the shots. If any of those boxers from Europe at that time wanted a beat down by Roy then they should of came to the USA.
- Now the shoe is on the other foot, and Roy should have to go to Europe if that is what Calzaghe wants.
- People are lining up to fight Mayweather, but no one wanted to get in the ring with Roy in his prime.