Judah is a bum and I will tell you why...

[fightingfigs]

dawg how many people can say they were the UNDISPUTED welterweight champ?zab has won titles in 3 different weight classes. regardless of who he beat or who he was beat by, thats a very hard thing to accomplish. same goes for the man tyson, at one point, he was unstoppable he was a world champion, the baddest man on the planet, i dont think champions can be bums. now i agree with you about waste of talent, but come on man 2 world champs cant be bums. sorry to come at you like that but i dont think people have a right to discredit people like that. zab and tyson were one of the best at a time. what about you?

I think Judah beats everyone at 140 and stands pretty high at the 147 division. only the top welters can beat him and thats it.

BUM? not at all.

I think he has a very low boxing IQ but in recent times has made some emotional changes. I feel as if he takes every fight serious now. He seems to have stepped up his classiness. He isnt the same Judah

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I think Judah beats everyone at 140 and stands pretty high at the 147 division. only the top welters can beat him and thats it.

BUM? not at all.

I think he has a very low boxing IQ but in recent times has made some emotional changes. I feel as if he takes every fight serious now. He seems to have stepped up his classiness. He isnt the same Judah

I think he needs to change trainers but if he doesnt live good than he is not going to be able to fight more than 4 rounds. To clear up my previous statements I think Zab is wasted talent and after 4 rounds he loses his steam. It seems if he gets frustrated he losses his will to fight. the fact he took a beating from Cotto like man doesn't change my mind about him. Look at his actions in the Baldomir fight hitting the man in his hip leg rather then shaking hands??? How about the time he threw the chair or pushed the reff?? The fight with Clottey which is what sparked this thread really got me when he thought he was ahead on the cards and opted to say he couldn't see. It i slike which guy is he? Reminds too much of Mike Tyson just a mental midget and it is not due to lack of intellegence. it is due to lack of maturtiy and self control.

He has all the tools I used to watch him in sparring and he was like GOD. he has a decent chin and great speed but he lacks the internal fortitude to push on. UI guess because for someone like him with all that natural talent everything came so easy that when it does get hard he can't handle it? maybe the word bum is harsh due to the fact he has won the Undisputed WW title but I used the word mental midget in it's place....Lefty

Check out these two links and see if you think Judah is a changed man

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=294620


http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/01/sp...suspended.html

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

So Judah dumped the Matthew Hatton fight on the undercard of the PBF and JMM fight to fight this nobody @ WW anyway huh?....Lefty

[djtmal]

He has no class..I used to train at Gleasons Gym in NYC and he was a bum then.....He has tremendous skills but his attitude sucks badily. he doesn't get along with his dad in the corner and seems to not listen to instruction at all. the great fighters make adjustments during fights or excute the game plan they practice in camo he does niether. Inhis last fight against Clottey Max pointed out in big fashion how Zab was actually fighting like he wanted to win the fight. He stated two or three times that Judah stuck to his game plan a plan he and his corner thought could win him the fight. DUHHH this is what you are supposed to do ab make a game plan and stick to it. At 130 - 140 you could get away with going with the flow but now you are pushing 31 and you are fighting bigger heavier handed guys you can't run straight back and bob you have to block punches with your hands.

Here is the real reason why he is a bum adn much to my dislike I say this he is like tyson in the way that he quits when he has a hard task in front of him. everything came so easily to him with his natural god given talent and now that he finds himself in a battle instead of a easy match he looks for a way out with out getting hurt. When he fought Clottey he thought he was ahead on the cards and continued to tell the fight doctor he couldnt see even after the doctor said he was good to go. Byrd brought him to the corner for a routine look at the cut and to say"HEAD BUTT"...Zab saw a way out and after his pop told him he had the first two rounds in the bank when he leaned over and whispered it in his ear after Zab thought he was ahead and figured he would win on points....YOU ARE A BUM ZAB RETIRE I AM SICK OF WATCHING YOU THROW YOU CAREER AWAY!!!!

you are right .... zab is garbage .... that is all

[L.Ellerbe]

judah is a guy who doesnt ever push himself to the limit..first off he needs to leave his father and find a trainer who can motivate him past the 4th round

[IMDAZED]

I don't know about bum but he is the most overrated fighter I can remember thru the past 15yrs.

[joartcc5]

Judah is a bum.

Just put enough pressure on him and he wilts.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Judah is a bum.

Just put enough pressure on him and he wilts.

What of Zab now is he staying at 147 or moving back down to 140lbs....lefty

[Showtime Shawn]

kind of rough to call a guy a bum who has the courage to step through those ropes and who has accomplished what judah has.

[Syf]

He Is A Bum I Loved The Prime Mike Tyson But He Turned Out To Be A Bum Too...anyone Who Throws Away Such Talent And Quits In My Mind Is A Bum!!!!!

You're a bum.

A keyboard warrior..

an armchair aficionado

Or some weak armed loser that would lose to Judah if Judah had one arm behind his back.

You hit the heavy bag a few times... do a few rounds on a speed bag..and you can all of a sudden pass judgment like its hot? GTFO

How many fights you had? Record? Who have you beat, and what have you done to put yourself in the position to judge not only Judah, but Mike ****ing Tyson?

Dumbass