If Pavlik knocks out Hopkins will he?

[abadger]

If Pavlik stops Hopkins I will be amazed, and will give him a lot of credit. I still won't think he is very good though

[RL_GMA]

For the simple fact that nobody's been able to KO Bernard his whole career, it'd definitely would be a huge accomplishment.

[Kris Silver]

I think people tend to mention Hopkins age with Calzaghe because he was floored and didn't look as dominant compared to some of his recent performances.It wasn't Calzaghes fault because Hopkins is a spoiler and will do anything{clinching,leading with his head and taking long breaks}to slow the pace of the fight down.Even Enzo Calzaghe gave Popkins a cane symbolizing his age just like Tarver gave him a rocking chair.Calzaghe's camp mentioned Hopkins age any time they had a chance to.It may have been jokingly but it still leaves an imprint on fans who are for Hopkins or against him.

If Pavlik get bossed around and knocked down or the decision isn't quite clear I am sure you will see Hopkins age come into play on these message boards.I think Hopkins will pull this off.A more complete fighter like Calzaghe who has very good stamina and can throw an average of 70 punches per round with speed and angles can have so many problems with Hop,Pavlik will deal with more than he can cope with.

Hopkins really was a style nitemare more for Joe than Pavlik. Calzaghe also didn't perform that well either he says it himself. Joe is normally pretty respectful and not the greatest **** talker, at least anymore. He makes the odd funny, good comment, but the age thing was a little lame thing to emphasise from his side. Enzo's mouth runs like Dwain Chamers on speed lol.

Calzaghe wasn't really hurt by the one shot in R1, and it was also the angle, off footed/balance. He was up in seconds, so it's not as big a deal as some like to think.

Pavlik has a huge reach advantage and if he works on his style he can keep Hopkins at distance and not coming on the inside more than Calzaghe. He's not as talented though imo so it'll probably end up about the same.

I just don't get this fight in many ways, when Pavlik has other MW business and offers, and Arum says Calzaghe won't be next at one point. It only makes sense if Pavlik keeps his weight up to fight at SMW against Calzaghe imo. So I'm struggling as to who I'm routing for. Pavlik just.

[ALT-Assassin]

If Pavlik stops Hopkins I will be amazed, and will give him a lot of credit. I still won't think he is very good though

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[abadger]

Hopkins really was a style nitemare more for Joe than Pavlik. Calzaghe also didn't perform that well either he says it himself. Joe is normally pretty respectful and not the greatest **** talker, at least anymore. He makes the odd funny, good comment, but the age thing was a little lame thing to emphasise from his side. Enzo's mouth runs like Dwain Chamers on speed lol.

Calzaghe wasn't really hurt by the one shot in R1, and it was also the angle, off footed/balance. He was up in seconds, so it's not as big a deal as some like to think.

Pavlik has a huge reach advantage and if he works on his style he can keep Hopkins at distance and not coming on the inside more than Calzaghe. He's not as talented though imo so it'll probably end up about the same.

I just don't get this fight in many ways, when Pavlik has other MW business and offers, and Arum says Calzaghe won't be next at one point. It only makes sense if Pavlik keeps his weight up to fight at SMW against Calzaghe imo. So I'm struggling as to who I'm routing for. Pavlik just.

The fight makes sense in that it has no title attached to it, will boost Kelly's name and it doesn't actually matter if he wins or not. Win great, lose and Hopkins is a legend again and Kelly goes back to 160. Its NO risk, high reward, like too many fights these days. Yes, like Calzaghe v Jones too.

[abadger]

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Correctement.

[Kris Silver]

The fight makes sense in that it has no title attached to it, will boost Kelly's name and it doesn't actually matter if he wins or not. Win great, lose and Hopkins is a legend again and Kelly goes back to 160. Its NO risk, high reward, like too many fights these days. Yes, like Calzaghe v Jones too.

I see what your saying but those things are all relative. Pavlik is getting some (should get more by comparison) criticism for not even responding to call outs from the #2 in his own division in Abraham, or Kessler whom is closer in weight and would be a good test at SMW and work up towards Calzaghe.

It's fairly high risk for Pavlik imo, if he loses, he loses to an old guy (though again it won't be made out Hops is so old this time) and he's got a loss. A lot of his name and hype imo is built on being undefeated, a bit like Cotto. A loss really harms his p4p status too, which again like Cotto, is inflated as it stands in undefeated state.

Hopkins wins, unlikely to be a rematch.

So it's high risk for Pavlik, low reward as several by that point have beaten Hopkins. It's low risk for Hopkins. That's like Roy as in low risk high reward, and Joe being high risk low reward.

[MANGLER]

Even nearin his mid 40s Hopkins is an elite fighter who's never been finished so Kelly would get props for that.

[BattlingNelson]

Pavlik will get a lot of credit. He will be hyped towards unfathomable heights.

Why? This may sound rude, but there are not many US-boxing superstars ATM and the yank-press will do anything they can to lift Pavlik to superstardom. That'll help sell the trade-magazines so it's basic economics really. It has nothing to do with fairness.

Pavlik can continue to get a lot of easy money because of the lack of yank-boxing superstars.

[ИATAS]

I'm sorry but this fight isn't a good W for Pavlik, although the experience he may learn in the ring is. I said that from the beginning this fight doesn't do anything for either fighters legacy.

IF he does KO hopkins, obviously it's due to bhop's being old as **** and way past his prime. I mean, pavlik wouldn't last 10 rounds against a younger in his prime version of bhop, so obviously right there alone tells you age is the factor not only for a KO, but also for a simple decision win or even a draw.