Joe Calzaghe's Wrist Injury, or Frank Warren's Lawsuit?

[P4P Opinion]

This is why i laugh at alot of people on here who think promoters are great, For example Bob Arum or Warreen...Warren try to scare people off Naz and Hatton when the refuse to renew there contract by lying that they both still have a contract with him and warn anyone that interfered would be sued.

So am not surprise he did the same with Joe c but am sure he isnt winning this case.

Agreed. Warren just gets very upset when his most marketable fighters finally realise he is holding them back and makes ridiculous claims about them verbally agreeing a contract. He never has proof, but often forces an out of court settlement out of fighters who really can't be bothered with a lengthy court battle. When Hamed left Warren his contract was up, when Hatton left Warren, he contract was up and Calzaghe has left Warren, after his contract was up. Warren just can't take it.

[Kris Silver]

Agreed. Warren just gets very upset when his most marketable fighters finally realise he is holding them back and makes ridiculous claims about them verbally agreeing a contract. He never has proof, but often forces an out of court settlement out of fighters who really can't be bothered with a lengthy court battle. When Hamed left Warren his contract was up, when Hatton left Warren, he contract was up and Calzaghe has left Warren, after his contract was up. Warren just can't take it.

Us much as to me this article seems to be the latest in the long line of very exaggerated and speculative pieces from Mark Vester, it is interesting about what promoters get away with.

I don't know why such verbal stuff is entertained, surely there's more to it then that. Judge Judy should do the case, she'd sort Warren out.

Incidentally I still don't know why this guy has to keep questioning the genuine ness in Calzaghes hand injury yet again. He went to the doc and had already expressed concern to ppl before it occurred inc Roy Jones, whom in addition he contacted immediately after it happened.

But something else is going in with Calzaghe, his promoter, so oh no there must be loads more to it, they must be connected. I think some ppl just want them to be.

[The Gully Gad]

The only thing i rate about warren is the man came from nothing.
He use to promote the likes of roy shaw and Lenny McClean
underground boxing bare knuckle what eva u wanna call it
and now the man is minted

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Us much as to me this article seems to be the latest in the long line of very exaggerated and speculative pieces from Mark Vester, it is interesting about what promoters get away with.

I don't know why such verbal stuff is entertained, surely there's more to it then that. Judge Judy should do the case, she'd sort Warren out.

Incidentally I still don't know why this guy has to keep questioning the genuine ness in Calzaghes hand injury yet again. He went to the doc and had already expressed concern to ppl before it occurred inc Roy Jones, whom in addition he contacted immediately after it happened.

But something else is going in with Calzaghe, his promoter, so oh no there must be loads more to it, they must be connected. I think some ppl just want them to be.

People on the outside people think he really got injured, but nobody on the inside believes he really got injured. It would not be the first or the hundredth time that someone claimed injury for one reason or another.

A few things not mentioned in that article, but mentioned in another. The deal with MSG to host the fight was not even finalized at the time of the injury (yes no venue) and HBO/Calzaghe/Jones were nervous that there would not be enough time to promote the fight and film/produce the entire 24/7 series.

[abadger]

Us much as to me this article seems to be the latest in the long line of very exaggerated and speculative pieces from Mark Vester, it is interesting about what promoters get away with.

I don't know why such verbal stuff is entertained, surely there's more to it then that. Judge Judy should do the case, she'd sort Warren out.

Incidentally I still don't know why this guy has to keep questioning the genuine ness in Calzaghes hand injury yet again. He went to the doc and had already expressed concern to ppl before it occurred inc Roy Jones, whom in addition he contacted immediately after it happened.

But something else is going in with Calzaghe, his promoter, so oh no there must be loads more to it, they must be connected. I think some ppl just want them to be.

I think we should make constant posts like "Did Calzaghe Bully Mark Vester At School?" and "Mark Vester, Is He A Fraud As A Journalist?"

[abadger]

People on the outside people think he really got injured, but nobody on the inside believes he really got injured. It would not be the first or the hundredth time that someone claimed injury for one reason or another.

A few things not mentioned in that article, but mentioned in another. The deal with MSG to host the fight was not even finalized at the time of the injury (yes no venue) and HBO/Calzaghe/Jones were nervous that there would not be enough time to promote the fight and film/produce the entire 24/7 series.

Perhaps no-one on the inside does believe it, but it still isn't news and it doesn't expose anything interesting. Calzaghe says he has a hand injury, Jones agrees, thats what the promoters say, so what, exactly is the point?

[Kris Silver]

People on the outside people think he really got injured, but nobody on the inside believes he really got injured. It would not be the first or the hundredth time that someone claimed injury for one reason or another.

A few things not mentioned in that article, but mentioned in another. The deal with MSG to host the fight was not even finalized at the time of the injury (yes no venue) and HBO/Calzaghe/Jones were nervous that there would not be enough time to promote the fight and film/produce the entire 24/7 series.

People on the outside think he really got injured, people on the inside don't. So what people on the 'outside' are naive? Perhaps just not cynical and as exaggerating as some journalists and those in the media. I'm surprised more aren't being fooled by it. Perhaps as the same was said with Lacy, where Calzaghe indeed had injuries and was not ducking. He's shown he doesn't do that and has these injuries, so the repeated speculation is just cheap and un necessary.

Prior history in boxing of feigning injury does not justify repeated cynical articles on a guy suggesting he may well be, over and over again.

Both fighters want the fight ASAP, and the small amount of promo time wasn't that bad as they confirmed it. It was the injury, Calzaghe's said he's pissed it happened, and Roy that it's a shame but wants him 100%. There far worse repercussions for both men in their late 30's delaying at this point in their careers so simply no real reason for Joe to make up an injury to delay.

It makes fights after even more past their prime, and possibly takes away from the chances of landing fights after it. Certainly make it more likely there'd be less likely to fit more than 2 fights in next year, so that'd be losing em money. Not to mention the fact their going to have to promote it a whole lot more to get even near the number of British fans over as Hattons already fighting that month. It's also near Christmas where ppl are reigning their spending in. There's big fights already around that time.

A little more time to promote, does not undo all of that and add up to a reason for feigning an injury to delay. It just doesn't make sense. It's a few choice-full loosely true things jumbled together to look like something hugely more. People expressed concern at the article like this last time and this one isn't a whole lot better. The title is yet again just attention grabbing and cheap aswell. Sorry, but true. Also these articles are not appearing to such extents elsewhere.

There's not so many articles speculating on why Mayweather retired. Why ODL won't fight Margarito after originally saying he would. Why Pavlik is fighting an old BHop and not responding to Abraham. Why Dawson is avoiding mandatories. Just this, over and over again which no other site really cares for, not even the public give much credit. It's not balanced journalism. I will note that some other articles from Mark, and I'm afraid to be specific but have to be, have also lacked much serious content with any back bone or serious fact. This guy speculates in his articles far too much, they don't get posted in much so there's not an interest in it, and it's not that valuable on a decent boxing site like this with otherwise great articles on the sport.

[commandant]

Tyson gave warren a slap as well while he was in london for the juiles frances
fight
and marsh shot the ****a what does that tell ya

it tells me that Mike Tyson is still the baddest man on the planet LOL.

[The Gully Gad]

lol

one not to be played with..
It was the result of an unpaid bill while tyson was staying in london
for some ***els i think..
Warren was expected to pick up the tab hehe

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Perhaps no-one on the inside does believe it, but it still isn't news and it doesn't expose anything interesting. Calzaghe says he has a hand injury, Jones agrees, thats what the promoters say, so what, exactly is the point?

Of course it does. HBO wants a guarantee that Calzaghe will cover them legally and he won't. If Calzaghe doesn't agree, will HBO still agree to put on the pay-per-view?