Is MAYWEATHER'S Aura of invincibility too High...?

[Horus]

No an Aura of Invincilibility is one that is used to describe someone destructive and aura by definition is fake an illusion. Tyson had this aura because he was seen to be indestructable. Mayweathers dominance is his proven acclaim but the way he wins at 147 is not one that inspires an aura. He will be a favourite but he is never a fearful man to go up against. O and BTW I think Mayweather beats everyone at Welter barring maybe Williams given a few years.

My question to you is....

If you dont think Mayweather doesn't have an Aura of Invincilibility...

Why do you think Mayweather can lose to Williams out of all fighters to pick?

Is it because Williams is 6'2 and mayweather is 5'8
Is it because Williams 1st Division was Middle Weight and Mayweathers was super featherweight ?
Is it because Williams reach is 83 inches and Mayweathers is "72
Is it because Williams walks around at around 190 just like Margarito and Mayweather walks around at 150?

Why do you give Williams the edge over Mayweather rather then Fighters Mayweathers Own size..?

How come you dont give Manny Pacquaio "5'7"an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Andre Berto"5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Miguel Cotto "5'8" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Juan Manuel Marquez "5'6" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Kendall Holt "5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Joel Casamayor "5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Nate Campbell "5'7" an edge over Mayweather

The point that Mayweather has to be in a handicap fight in order to even come close to losing....What does that tell you about Mayweather

It tells you he has an Aura of invincibility amoung fighters his own size...which can not be said about alot of fighters in boxing history..

but it can be said about Mayweather.

name 1 fighter 140 and below Mayweather wouldnt Knock out..not beat but KNock out..

[JAB5239]

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i Know boof, it's coo though. He know down is his heart. That he can not talk about the best in boxing in the last 25-50 years without Mentioning Floyd. Which is a huge accomplish for a critic to give..

Even he will admit Floyd is the greatest 130 Pounder to ever lace them up..
SO that shows you he has some reason.

In other words, you just want long threads with your name on them but don't want to answer the tough questions without it turning into a boof style flame war. Lol, very telling.

[pbftxrs316]

Floyd, beat Baldy, Judah and Hatton. He wasn't going to fight Arum fighters, and he wasn't going to fight who YOU think he should've or could've fought. He was and is the lineal champ. Your boy Cotto was given a title and so was Margs. You don't seem to understand this because of your anti-fanatical thinking.

hey boof, he forgot to add that 140, nobody wantd a piece of floyd arguably more than 130 and 135, because at 140 he was a killer with an immaculate aray of skills, not to mention physical athletic gifts on top of that. just ask hatton, mosley, de la hoya, and cotto to name several.

[Horus]

hey boof, he forgot to add that 140, nobody wantd a piece of floyd arguably more than 130 and 135, because at 140 he was a killer with an immaculate aray of skills, not to mention physical athletic gifts on top of that. just ask hatton, mosley, de la hoya, and cotto to name several.

People know these things...thats why they stick with this 147 argument...
which is dumb..because he never cared about that division.and still he was the best in the division.

The point is that Mayweather has to be in a handicap fight in order to even come close to losing....What does that tell you about Mayweather

It tells you he has an Aura of invincibility amoung fighters his own size...which can not be said about alot of fighters in boxing history.

But Mayweather is one of them

[Ryn0]

My question to you is....

If you dont think Mayweather doesn't have an Aura of Invincilibility...

Why do you think Mayweather can lose to Williams out of all fighters to pick?

Is it because Williams is 6'2 and mayweather is 5'8
Is it because Williams 1st Division was Middle Weight and Mayweathers was super featherweight ?
Is it because Williams reach is 83 inches and Mayweathers is "72
Is it because Williams walks around at around 190 just like Margarito and Mayweather walks around at 150?

Why do you give Williams the edge over Mayweather rather then Fighters Mayweathers Own size..?

How come you dont give Manny Pacquaio "5'7"an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Andre Berto"5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Miguel Cotto "5'8" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Juan Manuel Marquez "5'6" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Kendall Holt "5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Joel Casamayor "5'7" an edge over Mayweather
How Come you dont give Nate Campbell "5'7" an edge over Mayweather

The point that Mayweather has to be in a handicap fight in order to even come close to losing....What does that tell you about Mayweather

It tells you he has an Aura of invincibility amoung fighters his own size...which is all can not be said about alot of fighters in boxing history..

What I was trying to get at is that the words "aura of invincibility" are a bad choice because "aura" means an illusion. It's used to describe guys like Liston and Tyson because they aura of invicibility was shattered when there relatively one dimentional styles were exposed.

I pick Williams because he has the reach, yes but Corrales had the advantage in reach as well and was bigger than Mayweather. I don't pick the bigger Margarito to beat Mayweather either. I also believe that he isn't the greatest fighter at 130 because he didn't spend enough time there. He certainly had the most talent at 130 but it was merely a pit stop onto greater things the same way Roy Jones isn't the best Middleweight of all time because he didn't spend enough time there.

I also firmly believe that the reason Mayweather is so talked about is because of his status not his "aura" the P4P number 1 or former now he is retired is warrented some talking about in his former division and how he might come out of retirement. It's the same reason the great Leonard and Robinson are matched up with other greats. He doesn't have an aura of invicilbility as those terms are usually used when a fighter is "exposed" in a sense. It's also my opinion that Duran would beat Mayweather at 135 meaning he isn't invunerable to someone who is the same size as him.

[Samuel F.]

What is a conses?

[Horus]

What is a conses?

I meant Consensus

[Boofdatruth]

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In other words, you just want long threads with your name on them but don't want to answer the tough questions without it turning into a boof style flame war. Lol, very telling.

Horus, look how he responded lol. This is the weasel approach he brings every time he posts. He says he offers tough questions. This is his tough question: Why didn't floyd fight any of ther top WW's? When we give any answer, it is unacceptable because it isn't what he wants to hear. You can compare what Floyd has done to many champions, yet he really won't tell us why he feels this way. I'll tell you Horus. He doesn't like Money May's persona plain and simple. He will tell you this, and this clouds his judgement. You hit him with this:

Arum has worked the Mayweather-dodged-my-fighters angle incessantly, and brilliantly, and the tale that Mayweather declined $8 million to fight Margarito is absolutely true.
It just fails to note that Mayweather then took $8 million from a different promoter, Dan Goossen, for a fight against linear welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir, who was the hottest fighter in the sport at the time, and would have been a shoo-in for 2006 Fighter of the Year if the voting had been held the day before Mayweather dominated him for 12 rounds.
It also fails to note that Mayweather had paid Arum a $750,000 buyout to break their exclusive contract and did not want to fight for his former promoter again, and that Arum's bigger interest in the Mayweather-Margarito proposal was to secure an opponent worthy of a $2 million payday for Margarito, who was growing impatient with the promoter for not delivering major events.Mayweather's career path after that decision is difficult to argue. He followed the Baldomir victory with his two biggest fights and mainstream stardom.

and he ask's why Floyd didn't fight Williams, Cintron or Clottey. You say Floyd was looking for money fights, he doesn't believe you. The thing I find so funny is that he won't say Floyd ducked anyone or was scared of anyone. WHY? lol.

[Boofdatruth]

hey boof, he forgot to add that 140, nobody wantd a piece of floyd arguably more than 130 and 135, because at 140 he was a killer with an immaculate aray of skills, not to mention physical athletic gifts on top of that. just ask hatton, mosley, de la hoya, and cotto to name several.

Those pages are stuck together in his hisotry book of boxing lol. He has no argument when it comes to Cotto. He is now a converted "Margs beat my fighters ass convert" lol Margs fan. I swear this JAB clown picked Cotto to beat Margs. He will tell you ask him lol.

[Horus]

What I was trying to get at is that the words "aura of invincibility" are a bad choice because "aura" means an illusion. It's used to describe guys like Liston and Tyson because they aura of invicibility was shattered when there relatively one dimentional styles were exposed.

I pick Williams because he has the reach, yes but Corrales had the advantage in reach as well and was bigger than Mayweather. I don't pick the bigger Margarito to beat Mayweather either. I also believe that he isn't the greatest fighter at 130 because he didn't spend enough time there. He certainly had the most talent at 130 but it was merely a pit stop onto greater things the same way Roy Jones isn't the best Middleweight of all time because he didn't spend enough time there.

I also firmly believe that the reason Mayweather is so talked about is because of his status not his "aura" the P4P number 1 or former now he is retired is warrented some talking about in his former division and how he might come out of retirement. It's the same reason the great Leonard and Robinson are matched up with other greats. He doesn't have an aura of invicilbility as those terms are usually used when a fighter is "exposed" in a sense. It's also my opinion that Duran would beat Mayweather at 135 meaning he isn't invunerable to someone who is the same size as him.

It's also my opinion that Duran would beat Mayweather at 135 meaning he isn't invulnerable to someone who is the same size as him.

Just look at what u just Wrote:

You just named probably one of the 20 greatest fighters of all time as the only person who could beat Floyd who is Floyd's own size...
enough though I disagree


What does that tell you..?


Why cant you name anybody today or in Floyd's era that is Floyd's own size who can beat him...?

It is because he has an Perception that he is so gifted that no fighter his own size can beat him. Thats why he must move up in weight to find a challenge
That my friend is an "aura of invincibility"