Would Manny Pacquiao go threw Mayweather's 130-135 resume undefeated?

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  • poeticlsykuac
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    #31
    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
    Pacquiao has some of the best boxing skills in the world. He just throws it all out the window because he'd rather brawl. When he beat Barrera in 03 and Morales in the 2nd fight it was body punches that made the difference. Something Pac is very good at but people overlook constantly in favor of the flashy left bombs
    Dude beating up on an old Morales with body punches isn't impressive no matter how you spin it.

    I think Corrales KO's Pacman. I know it sounds crazy, but if an old Morales stings Pacman in Winners gloves, Corrales one of the sports pound for pound hardest hitters at the time wins KO's him. Corrales straight right would be the money punch. Pacman can't fight going backwards and trading with Corrales is a huge mistake. Corrales had as close to one punch power as anyone at that weight(just ask Castillo). Mayweather used a lot of angles when he fought Corrales, he ducked, dodged, and smothered him. Pacman is very rhythmic in his body movement, he doesn't have the style to beat Corrales, Pacman prefers to have distance. Corrales is a long rangy puncher with a straight right that kills, JMM and Morales landed easily against him. Though both are more intelligent, Corrales knew how to use that power, that is why he had so many KOs.

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #32
      Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
      Dude beating up on an old Morales with body punches isn't impressive no matter how you spin it.

      I think Corrales KO's Pacman. I know it sounds crazy, but if an old Morales stings Pacman in Winners gloves, Corrales one of the sports pound for pound hardest hitters at the time wins KO's him. Corrales straight right would be the money punch. Pacman can't fight going backwards and trading with Corrales is a huge mistake. Corrales had as close to one punch power as anyone at that weight(just ask Castillo). Mayweather used a lot of angles when he fought Corrales, he ducked, dodged, and smothered him. Pacman is very rhythmic in his body movement, he doesn't have the style to beat Corrales, Pacman prefers to have distance. Corrales is a long rangy puncher with a straight right that kills, JMM and Morales landed easily against him. Though both are more intelligent, Corrales knew how to use that power, that is why he had so many KOs.
      Yeah stopping a 29 year old Morales for the first time in his career, how pathetic is that? Before asking Castillo about Corrales' power, I'd rather ask the 4 mexican cab drivers that stopped him prior to his fights with Diego.

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      • poeticlsykuac
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        #33
        Originally posted by them_apples
        Diego might have been to big, but you can make the same case that Mayweather would have trouble with Barrera, Morales and Marquez at 130..
        I don't think that Mayweather has trouble with that old Morales(and he is my favorite fighter) that Pac fought. Mayweather isn't like any fighter Barrera or Marquez has faced. It is hard to say how they deal with Mayweather. Mayweather would probably beat Barrera easier with his long arms and crafty defense. Marquez would be the questionable one as it would be a hell of a chess match, but if you have two intelligent boxers in the ring normally the more talented one gets the W.

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          #34
          Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
          Dude beating up on an old Morales with body punches isn't impressive no matter how you spin it.

          I think Corrales KO's Pacman. I know it sounds crazy, but if an old Morales stings Pacman in Winners gloves, Corrales one of the sports pound for pound hardest hitters at the time wins KO's him. Corrales straight right would be the money punch. Pacman can't fight going backwards and trading with Corrales is a huge mistake. Corrales had as close to one punch power as anyone at that weight(just ask Castillo). Mayweather used a lot of angles when he fought Corrales, he ducked, dodged, and smothered him. Pacman is very rhythmic in his body movement, he doesn't have the style to beat Corrales, Pacman prefers to have distance. Corrales is a long rangy puncher with a straight right that kills, JMM and Morales landed easily against him. Though both are more intelligent, Corrales knew how to use that power, that is why he had so many KOs.
          Finally!! Someone remembers who Diego is.

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          • poeticlsykuac
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            #35
            Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
            Yeah stopping a 29 year old Morales for the first time in his career, how pathetic is that? Before asking Castillo about Corrales' power, I'd rather ask the 4 mexican cab drivers that stopped him prior to his fights with Diego.
            13 years into a career littered with battles isn't impressive. Morales had already had like 20+ title fights in that amount of time before he faced Pac. Lighter weight class fighters primes start younger and end sooner most of the time. They have to rely on speed to hit the other fighter and after 10+ battles(not fights but battles) you are quite a bit outside your prime. Prime Morales beats up on Pac, that was obvious after the first Morales fight.

            Castillo did have some early TKO losses, but obiously he developed a solid chin by not getting KO'd or TKO'd for a seriously long time(98-05).
            Last edited by poeticlsykuac; 07-31-2008, 08:32 PM.

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            • them_apples
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              #36
              Pacquiaos competition all had blazing handspeed, Mayweather fought bigger opponent's but I don't think they were as skilled.

              Corrales was just a freak in height for featherweight, but he couldn't box very well and didn't throw many punches, Pacquiao would probably knock him on his ass a few times to win a UD.

              Castillo wasn't as fast as the Mexican Trio, he would get beat up (by the Pacquiao that filled in the division,early on he was sort of small).

              Prime Morales beats up on Pac, that was obvious after the first Morales fight.
              you really don't leave any room for Pacquiao to Improve do you? It was obvious Pacquiao came back in a rematch bigger, badder and stronger..and got a tko 10 over Morales.
              Last edited by them_apples; 07-31-2008, 08:35 PM.

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                #37
                Castillo is one Mexican that Pacquiao would never have beaten. I can see him beating Corrales.

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                • poeticlsykuac
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by them_apples
                  Pacquiaos competition all had blazing handspeed, Mayweather fought bigger opponent's but I don't think they were as skilled.

                  Corrales was just a freak in height for featherweight, but he couldn't box very well and didn't throw many punches, Pacquiao would probably knock him on his ass a few times to win a UD.

                  Castillo wasn't as fast as the Mexican Trio, he would get beat up (by the Pacquiao that filled in the division,early on he was sort of small).
                  But Cotto was faster then Margarito?
                  Mayweather faster than Castillo? Arguably a loss for Mayweather.

                  Pac doesn't have the skills that Mayweather does to handle those bigger fighters. Fighting a fast fighter and fighting a powerful fighter are two different fights, Pac fights as a power fighter. That is a NO-NO against those fighters. Corrales and Castillo's power is unreal. Morales, Marques, and Barrera are all natural super bantam weights or that is where they were the most successful/in there prime.

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                  • them_apples
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                    But Cotto was faster then Margarito?
                    Mayweather faster than Castillo? Arguably a loss for Mayweather.

                    Pac doesn't have the skills that Mayweather does to handle those bigger fighters. Fighting a fast fighter and fighting a powerful fighter are two different fights, Pac fights as a power fighter. That is a NO-NO against those fighters. Corrales and Castillo's power is unreal. Morales, Marques, and Barrera are all natural super bantam weights or that is where they were the most successful/in there prime.
                    Pacquiao would land to many Hard straights on Castillo, bust his face up and knock him down or even out.

                    Are you Mexican?

                    BTW, Morales only admitted to under training in the 3rd Pacquiao fight, he was in good fighting shape in the second fight.
                    Last edited by them_apples; 07-31-2008, 08:43 PM.

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                    • poeticlsykuac
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by them_apples
                      Pacquiaos competition all had blazing handspeed, Mayweather fought bigger opponent's but I don't think they were as skilled.

                      Corrales was just a freak in height for featherweight, but he couldn't box very well and didn't throw many punches, Pacquiao would probably knock him on his ass a few times to win a UD.

                      Castillo wasn't as fast as the Mexican Trio, he would get beat up (by the Pacquiao that filled in the division,early on he was sort of small).

                      you really don't leave any room for Pacquiao to Improve do you? It was obvious Pacquiao came back in a rematch bigger, badder and stronger..and got a tko 10 over Morales.
                      Morales was old in the first, and older in the second. Morales barely had anything in the tank to do that fight. He even lost the very next fight. Pac did get better but it probably didn't hurt that Morales dropped off so much.

                      If a old Morales could box Pac and beat him up, what do you think the young El Terrible we know would have done? He put nasty combinations together with a ton more power then he did by the time Pac was around. Morales was a different fighter even after the first MAB. Pac got him after 3 of those fights , 2 espadas, Chi, McCullough, Kelly, Velardez, Chavez, and Hernandez.

                      Trust me watch some prime Morales fights, Prime Morales dismantles Pacman.

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