Roy jones or Floyd Mayweather

[Don Johnson]

Roy Jones by a mile

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From the first time I watched Floyd Mayweather - against Louie Leija on the Morales-Zaragoza undercard - I knew he was gonna be a great. In fact, I was so sure he was gonna surpass Roy on the ATG list and possibly challenge Robinson.

Unfortunately, I'm still waiting. After a promising start at 130 & 135, Floyd has done little to enhance his legacy--unless picking up titles from the likes of Gatti, Baldomir, etc. is your thing. Not knocking these guys and these are accomplishments but certainly nothing that enhances your legacy in any major way - and not quite on the level of beating even a Reggie Johnson. And Toney + Hopkins>>Corrales & Castillo.

Floyd still has a chance to surpass Roy, although it seems as if it's Jones these days who's hellbent on creating a spectacular legacy. Still, I think Floyd will return. The last chapter in his book is yet to be written. For now, it's Roy...and it's not that close.

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Mayweather is not a natural super FW.

He fought his first 26 fights at super featherweight. I guess he did grow and fill out about though, so I'd say Lightweight/Light WW then. Fact remains though, he fought the majority of his fights at Super featherweight and he was an absolute beast at that weight he had great power and a completly different style to what he had when he was fighting bigger men. Floyd would attack and go for the knockout when he was Super FW. At the end of his Super FW career he was 26-0 (20). So trust me, he's by no means a natural welterweight. He probably grew to be a natural Lightweight as in his last Super FW fight he did have trouble making the weight.

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Not knocking these guys and these are accomplishments but certainly nothing that enhances your legacy in any major way - and not quite on the level of beating even a Reggie Johnson. And Toney + Hopkins>>Corrales & Castillo.

True but there's also Ricky/Oscar...both bigger men that floyd and by no means pushovers...Oscar is overrated and old when Floyd beat him but it was at 154 lbs (light-middle) and Ricky at this time was over-hyped beyond belief he was supposed to be this raw undefeated tallent that would beat you down and knock you out...he was actually (thinking about it) a very dangerous fight for Floyd at the time as Hatton really was HYPED to **** and Floyd just took him to school. I agree though, right now Roy > Floyd, it's close but Roy has accomplished a bit more and he's beaten a better caliber of fighters. I think Floyds done with boxing though personally if he did come back, I'd rather he fought Manny Pacquiao at Lightweight/L.Welterweight than fighting the top Welterweights, mainly because I feel the Welterweights really will be just too big for Floyd. Pacman vs Floyd would be a much better fight imo It'll be much more even weight wise and they're both fast boxers + Both P4P No.1s at one point. Pacman being the current P4P.

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True but there's also Ricky/Oscar...both bigger men that floyd and by no means pushovers...Oscar is overrated and old when Floyd beat him but it was at 154 lbs (light-middle) and Ricky at this time was over-hyped beyond belief he was supposed to be this raw undefeated tallent that would beat you down and knock you out...he was actually (thinking about it) a very dangerous fight for Floyd at the time as Hatton really was HYPED to **** and Floyd just took him to school. I agree though, right now Roy > Floyd, it's close but Roy has accomplished a bit more and he's beaten a better caliber of fighters. I think Floyds done with boxing though personally if he did come back, I'd rather he fought Manny Pacquiao at Lightweight/L.Welterweight than fighting the top Welterweights, mainly because I feel the Welterweights really will be just too big for Floyd. Pacman vs Floyd would be a much better fight imo It'll be much more even weight wise and they're both fast boxers + Both P4P No.1s at one point. Pacman being the current P4P.

I left out Oscar for a reason. Mayweather basically weighed the same as he would for a welter fight--not quite moving up. Second, Oscar hasn't had a significant win in six years. In other words, he's just a name.

Hatton? Bigger? I think we saw who was bigger and stronger. Furthermore, Hatton was already exposed as being only slightly above average at 147 by the slightly above average Louis Collazo. You said it yourself, overhyped.

if Floyd comes back, he needs to beat the best in his division, for starters. Not look for someone two divisions below. Let the Golden Girl tease fans with that kind of bull**** that gets them hyped.

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I just don't see why Floyd needs to proove himself in Welterweight tbh, if he did proove himself in Welterweight by beating Cotto/Margarito then yeah he's the man and he's prooved it then but Welterweights a big weight for floyd...Floyd is not a natural WW.

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I just don't see why Floyd needs to proove himself in Welterweight tbh, if he did proove himself in Welterweight by beating Cotto/Margarito then yeah he's the man and he's prooved it then but Welterweights a big weight for floyd...Floyd is not a natural WW.

So what? So we should excuse him? Then he should go back to 130. That's like saying Roy shouldn't have fought any decent light heavyweights because they are all naturally bigger than him. And why should Manny Pacquiao fight him then? After all, isn't he a natural fly/super flyweight? See the mess you're creating? No need to defend Floyd like that.

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So what? So we should excuse him? Then he should go back to 130. That's like saying Roy shouldn't have fought any decent light heavyweights because they are all naturally bigger than him. And why should Manny Pacquiao fight him then? After all, isn't he a natural fly/super flyweight? See the mess you're creating? No need to defend Floyd like that.

Fair enough good point, I don't think Floyds coming out of retirement though.