Mayweather NEVER GAVE A (****) about the WW divison. BUT the WW division needed him 2

[JAB5239]

Ok look at it let this...how would you feel if Mayweather came back and went down to 135 his 2nd division as horus posted and fought JMM or Pacqauio. or any other lightweight? Would you give him ****?

In all honesty I probably would. He was at welter for 3 years calling himself the best without fighting the best. If he came back and fought at anything other than 147 it would appear he was blatenty ducking the best and most deserving fighters there. That said, I don't think he would do that. The guy has unlimited talent, Im just not giving him props at welterweight because he has beaten the top guys at that weight to deserve those props. why is that difficult to understand if you are an objective fan of the sport and not just a fan of a fighter?

[Boofdatruth]

Well according to ESPN, and MANY other credible sites, the offer was $8mil.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382


On top of that, Floyd nor anyone from his team have EVER denied that the offer was made.

They didn't have to. You truly have no clue what you are posting. You want to keep on believing your baby facts lol. You haven't read enough to know why Floyd never fought either guy. You read what you wanted to read, and inferenced what you read and wanted to believe.

[Guest]

They didn't have to. You truly have no clue what you are posting. You want to keep on believing your baby facts lol. You haven't read enough to know why Floyd never fought either guy. You read what you wanted to read, and inferenced what you read and wanted to believe.

The 8 million story has been trotted out a ton lately.I don't see any rebuttal from Floyd but the thing is, as much as I wanted to see this fight and Floyd fight top welters, he won financially in the end taking to break the bank fights versus Hatton and DLH.

That's what happened. I don't have to like it, and I don't but financially he won.
If he wanted to stick it to Arum, he sure as hell did.

[Boofdatruth]

Difference is, Cotto fought the the toughest welters. So what if he lost. At least we can say for sure, good or bad. Nobody can say that about Mayweather because he did not fight anybody but one top welter in 3 years. Boxing fans "in the know" don't give fighters passes when they simply won't or haven't fought the best opposition ion their own division. Lol, I told you months agao to pray that cotto lost this fight, because now the nuthuggers have more excuses why Floyd won't fight either cotto or Margs. 1. Because cotto lost. Not as appealing. 2. Margarito doesn't have a big enough following, so why fight him? Laughable!!

No, Cotto didn't fight the toughest welters. He fought his first prime fighter who was capable of beating him, and he got torched. You are a Cotto fan arguing about who Floyd didn't fight in your eyes lol. It is the only argument you can present...who Floyd didn't fight. Floyd is the true champion. You can talk about who he didn't fight, but he only left you unfulfilled.

[Boofdatruth]

Because this thread isn't about Williams. Who, incidently, Floyd never fought either. Is that clear enough for you?

lol, your comments are laughable. This is floyd and the WW division. We can talk about it all, so "no", it isn't clear enough. The thing is, you won't go as far to say Floyd ducked anyone or is scared lol...You just say he didn't fight them. You know...lol...you know.

[Boofdatruth]

And that has nothing to do with Floyd. Keep twisting the subject, you might fool someone eventually.

Yeah, lets just keep all the talk about Floyd, and not his opponents lol. I forgot you were a diehard Dlh fan lol.

[Boofdatruth]

Bwaahhaaahhaahaahaa!!!!! This is the biggest ball sucking, excuse making post of all time. Put the pipe down, take a shower, get a job and buy a clue!! Hilariously pathetic!

This must be revenge from your suspension lol.

Margarito's win won't lure Mayweather back
by David Mayo | The Grand Rapids Press
Tuesday July 29, 2008, 9:00 AM

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Antonio Margarito's win over Miguel Cotto further solidifies Floyd Mayweather's retirement. Mayweather previously turned down $8 million to fight Margarito, instead opting for the same payday to fight Carlos Baldomir.The over-under on Floyd Mayweather's retirement might be briefer than Brett Favre's, yet it is implausible to believe Antonio Margarito's career-defining victory will affect it either way.

Margarito knocked out previously unbeaten Miguel Cotto on Saturday to solidify his claim to the linear welterweight title, which Mayweather abdicated by retiring last month.

Promoter Bob Arum declared the definitive outcome as evidence why Grand Rapids native Mayweather declined $8 million for a proposed 2006 fight against Margarito, and the boxing insiders who consider this retirement a hoax trumpeted that stance.

In a completely candid moment, Arum might have admitted his indifference as to whether Mayweather ever returns to boxing, because as long as the erstwhile pound-for-pound king stays retired, the promoter can enjoy all the verbal machismo without any of the tangible risks for his fighters.

Arum also might have admitted a different result would have served his promotional company's interests better, because he also promotes Cotto, and could have crowed about how Mayweather dodged an undefeated former stablemate all the way into retirement. And an undefeated Cotto might have been the one person most capable of luring Mayweather back.

Except Cotto couldn't get out of the 11th round against Margarito.

A new king in his former division is unlikely to spur Mayweather nearly as much as an attractive point spread or an evening out clubbing these days, particularly after he already spurned a mid-eight-figures payday for a rematch of the richest fight in history, against Oscar De La Hoya, to retire instead.

Arum has worked the Mayweather-dodged-my-fighters angle incessantly, and brilliantly, and the tale that Mayweather declined $8 million to fight Margarito is absolutely true.
It just fails to note that Mayweather then took $8 million from a different promoter, Dan Goossen, for a fight against linear welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir, who was the hottest fighter in the sport at the time, and would have been a shoo-in for 2006 Fighter of the Year if the voting had been held the day before Mayweather dominated him for 12 rounds.

It also fails to note that Mayweather had paid Arum a $750,000 buyout to break their exclusive contract and did not want to fight for his former promoter again, and that Arum's bigger interest in the Mayweather-Margarito proposal was to secure an opponent worthy of a $2 million payday for Margarito, who was growing impatient with the promoter for not delivering major events.Mayweather's career path after that decision is difficult to argue. He followed the Baldomir victory with his two biggest fights and mainstream stardom.Margarito finally got his major events with Mayweather's retirement. Now, he might get the De La Hoya fight that Mayweather eschewed. Or maybe a Cotto rematch. Or maybe Zab Judah, if Judah beats Joshua Clottey this week.

He has big things in store. How big will be determined as much by the strength of last week's pay-per-view numbers as the quality of the victory.

Margarito also has five losses and negligible cross-market appeal when compared to more remuneratively attractive opponents who weren't enough to keep the undefeated Mayweather in the sport.
Margarito also lost a big fight against then-unbeaten Paul Williams last year. Williams immediately lost to Carlos Quintana, a loss later avenged, though it illustrates the fragility of top welterweights without Mayweather as the standard-bearer.

I should mention that Ricky Hatton could beat everyone in the previous paragraph, with the exception of the man who knocked him out last December. And Andre Berto, the 22-0 young gun who claimed the World Boxing Council version of the welterweight title Mayweather used to hold, might beat them all.

If anything in that equation suggests a tidied-up division and a temptation for Mayweather to come back based on the Margarito-Cotto result, then his retirement really is a hoax.

[Boofdatruth]

If you say Mayweather has grown into the Welther weight division even though that is his 4th Division

PLease Answer this Direct Question: (No rants) JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION

1.If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?

or do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?

Context

The Welther weight Division

Cotto's: 2nd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing, and remain the same
Margarito's: 2nd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Shane Mosley: 3rd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Zab Juduh: 2nd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Andre Berto: 2nd Divison - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Joshua Clottey:2nd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Kermit Cintron: 1st Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
Paul Williams:2nd Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same
CarlosQuintana:1st Division - Jab thinks He Stop Growing and remain the same

Floyd Mayweather: 4th Division - Jab think He was the only one Growing in the Division!

Horus, don't bother. Floyd wasn't going to do business with Arum. He thinks Floyd should've just did business with Arum when he knows Floyd was leaving Arum. He is even now suing Arum, yet this...this guy thinks he should've just fought Cotto or Margs. This is the part that the fanatics never understand. They use words like nuthugging, ball licking, and think they are making a point lol.

[benray4fun]

I call him "PRETTY BOY FLOORED" before he ever gets in the ring cause he never makes it there with all the excuses he and his fans have.

Making money is one thing, but not fighting?...C'mon Oscar makes more money than money himself and he's still ****'n today, cause it's not just about the money,"it's also about the fight."

[Boofdatruth]

Lol, no wonder you and Boof are like the wonder twins. You get backed into a corner and you resort to blatent lies. Show us all the post were I've stated any of this. You can't. End of debebate!

lol...

Arum has worked the Mayweather-dodged-my-fighters angle incessantly, and brilliantly, and the tale that Mayweather declined $8 million to fight Margarito is absolutely true.It just fails to note that Mayweather then took $8 million from a different promoter, Dan Goossen, for a fight against linear welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir, who was the hottest fighter in the sport at the time, and would have been a shoo-in for 2006 Fighter of the Year if the voting had been held the day before Mayweather dominated him for 12 rounds.

It also fails to note that Mayweather had paid Arum a $750,000 buyout to break their exclusive contract and did not want to fight for his former promoter again, and that Arum's bigger interest in the Mayweather-Margarito proposal was to secure an opponent worthy of a $2 million payday for Margarito, who was growing impatient with the promoter for not delivering major events.Mayweather's career path after that decision is difficult to argue. He followed the Baldomir victory with his two biggest fights and mainstream stardom.