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[ztrac79]

Good post. I totally agree. Several people have said after watching the first 6 rounds they know Cotto will make a slight adjustment and win the rematch. It isn't always that easy. The pace was way too fast for Cotto. If he moves less he will take more damage.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

What I noticed, for one thing, is that even in the first round when he boxed beautifully Cotto ended up stopping to gather himself and, I don't know, he just showed body language that I recognized. He HAD to gather himself, you know? In the second it was a brief moment where he stopped and it was almost like he was saying to himself, "This guy just wont stop." It's mentally challenging, believe me, as much or more than physically. Antonio on the other hand never IMO showed any sign of "breaking" (as I call it) and even when he would get caught with three or four flush shots (from a guy who can definitely punch) he brushed it off almost effortlessly (he appeared to anyway. You see what I mean? I am sure Cotto noticed). When he would brush it off and then begin his pursuit again so quickly....the best way I can describe it from Cotto's point of view is it is like if you were Luke, Han and Chewbacca in the trash compactor The walls just steady closing...closing...closing...your blood pressure rising, your adrenaline, too...but there seems to be little hope...and you feel that the more you try the more tired you get. I do not necessarily think Cotto outright quit.... I think he took the knee on his own and he was about to assess the situation for himself and decide what to do. His corner beat him to it, though.

[scap]

Scap, real quick because I have to head out..I will post more later but boxing in that ring IS deep to me...the insights (as i see them) are deep....if you know what you are looking for and at it IS deep.....thats what I love about the game.... maybe you watch and see one thing and I see another... I look at a painting and see sqiggly lines while someone else sees really deep beauty...its all in the eye of the beholder. As for the betting.... where I was at bets were made in the second round on Cotto....guys took the bets..one guy took the bet based solely on what I told him after the first, that being that Cotto is winning the battles but Margo will eventually win the war.

Im no former fighter like yurself but I to watch this sport in a "deep" way. Do I have the knowledge and the eye that you have...absolutely not but in this match I do not think it took and Iceman Scully or a Manny Steward to tell me or some of my more educated boxing friends that this fight was not going good.

You mention the second round....your dead on although I thought Cotto won the second myself along with many of my more educated boxing friends-the key in the second was the amount (the real cult fans) of punishment cotto was taking so early, it was not supposed to be this brutal this early.

I guess my point is is that there are fights where my untrained eye misses something and a fight turns when I never saw it coming...I think good hard nosed boxing fans that werent balls to the wall for either guy could see this outcome coming...yes as early as the second and many educated fans in Seattle at my house on Saturday night said as much.

If your ever in Seattle let me know-I pack a pretty nice well rounded fight crowd and your always welcome!

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Would love to come to Seattle. I will let u know There are fans who saw this unfolding and many others who did not.... the guys I was with, other than Clay-Bey, all thought it was a wash for Cotto even going into the 8th because of all the flashy punches he was landing. They didnt recognize the pressure and certainly didnt recognize the body shots he was sneaking in. If they did, they didnt realize the affects shots like that have.

[scap]

Would love to come to Seattle. I will let u know There are fans who saw this unfolding and many others who did not.... the guys I was with, other than Clay-Bey, all thought it was a wash for Cotto even going into the 8th because of all the flashy punches he was landing. They didnt recognize the pressure and certainly didnt recognize the body shots he was sneaking in. If they did, they didnt realize the affects shots like that have.

There is more then a few of us that would want to bs with you and....yeah probably go over the Nunn fight. Im sure you would oblige.

[BORIQUA POWER]

props to the mexicano!!!! its all good. boriqua will be back though!!!!

[LondonRingRules]

I say, in the 7th round I knew the clock was ticking quickly for Cotto.

One thing I will say, many people really do not understand or appreciate the mental and physical pressure that a man walking you down in that ring presents to the equation. Add that to the very sneaky and subtle body shots that Antonio was sneakin gin there almost non stop after the 2nd round and the handwriting was on the wall.

** No offense Ice, but a whole lotta folks saw the handwriting after the 7th.

Even Max and Manny were on the same page for this fight. Marg visibly staggered Cotto in the 1st with a left hook to the body, and there were a couple dozen more before the end. No legs for Cotto.

Cotto showed the heart of a champ and fought brilliantly, but the damage to his nose compromised his stamina and left him weak in the end for the beat down. Vasquez had to quit on his stool the first Marquez fight because of his nose.

Fair play, all the top welts fighting each other giving everyone some classics. Nobody could remain undefeated against these guys forever. Cotto to be back better than ever from what I saw, and I pray Marg finds a soft place to land since his style of soaking up unholy punishment a deal with the devil.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

No offense but...I saw it in the second round and told EVERYBODY with me how it was going to go. I dont pick all fights right etc etc...I am just saying that for this particular fight I knew it VERY very early and it was specifically because of the things I always look for in fighters when they are in that ring. I am BIG on outward appearance and what Miguel showed me in the first and second had me convinced very early. So...props to meeee!! LOL.

[fragilety]

Ice what happend in the fight is pretty much what you told me was going to happen prior to it.. good call

[Queen_Leia]

No offense but...I saw it in the second round and told EVERYBODY with me how it was going to go. I dont pick all fights right etc etc...I am just saying that for this particular fight I knew it VERY very early and it was specifically because of the things I always look for in fighters when they are in that ring. I am BIG on outward appearance and what Miguel showed me in the first and second had me convinced very early. So...props to meeee!! LOL.

Hey John, how do u like Marg chances against Mayweather?