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  • Originally posted by MrDG View Post
    Exactly!!!!
    Not only that but the fact that I can argue the things that Marg did wrong. He never used his jab effectively and dropped his right hand when going to the body with the left hook, exposing his chin to left hooks by Cotto.

    Imagine Marg with an effective left jab in that fight? Even more of a slaughter.

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    • Originally posted by elmalo28 View Post
      i think margarito will be favored in the rematch, but I'd say cotto with the right adjustment, and training has a good chance in the rematch. he could win.
      After the beating Cotto took from Margarito I seriously doubt that he'll even want a rematch. He hit Margarito with shots that had caved previous opponents in but Margarito just ate them like they were snacks and smiled and kept coming. How can Cotto even think of a rematch if he cannot hurt Margarito but Margarito can hurt him. And even if he's crazy enough to get involved in a rematch I see the same outcome. Maybe even sooner than the 11th round next time. Cotto will counterpunch and run for a few rounds bout sooner or later he'll slow down and Margs will kick his behind again. What Cotto should really do, and I think he might, is retire. He said he would retire at 30 anyhow. He's made enough money. Retire, Cotto. You'll never be the same after that beating. Remember Hitman Hearns? He was considered the baddest welterweight on the planet until he met Sugar Ray. After that fight Hearns was never the same. He started getting beat by nobody's...like Iran Barkley. Don't let it happen to you, Cotto.

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      • Originally posted by bbwoof2000 View Post
        After the beating Cotto took from Margarito I seriously doubt that he'll even want a rematch. He hit Margarito with shots that had caved previous opponents in but Margarito just ate them like they were snacks and smiled and kept coming. How can Cotto even think of a rematch if he cannot hurt Margarito but Margarito can hurt him. And even if he's crazy enough to get involved in a rematch I see the same outcome. Maybe even sooner than the 11th round next time. Cotto will counterpunch and run for a few rounds bout sooner or later he'll slow down and Margs will kick his behind again. What Cotto should really do, and I think he might, is retire. He said he would retire at 30 anyhow. He's made enough money. Retire, Cotto. You'll never be the same after that beating. Remember Hitman Hearns? He was considered the baddest welterweight on the planet until he met Sugar Ray. After that fight Hearns was never the same. He started getting beat by nobody's...like Iran Barkley. Don't let it happen to you, Cotto.

        If every boxer in history walked away from a big fight because the man he was fighting could hurt him we would have nothing on record except Sam Peter and Tye Fields versus Julius Long.... Well Roy Jones first 20 fights, JD Chapmans and Donnell Holmes entire careers, Well you get the idea

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        • Originally posted by Shalafi View Post
          It's funny how people can just assume and talk out of their asses, even that writer is a freaking moron. Cotto fought perfectly, there was really not much he could of done differently to try to win this fight, people are quick to judge a fighters performance because they are on the outside looking in, they are not in there playing with fire. Even Cotto himself was humble and decent to admit he tried plan a, b, c & d and just couldn't find a way to beat Margarito, he was also being asked about why he wasn't able to go to inside and he simply said "I just couldn't find a way".

          Some of you ****ers are questioning Cotto's footwork, how much better can he get? the guy was practically dancing around the ring and Margarito had a difficult time trying to cut the ring with him due to how well Cotto was moving and Margarito's lack of footspeed. People who criticize Cotto's performance are undermining his abilities and putting down Margarito as well. I really see no difference in a rematch, I think Margarito has the tools to beat a guy like Cotto, plus he has the mental advantage at this point.


          I agree that Cotto fought well, but I think there are definitely things that he could do differently the second time around to reverse the outcome. Though he showed excellent footwork and hand speed throughout the fight, I agree with the writer (despite his horrific grammar) that Cotto made a huge error by not committing to body punching. Everyone knows that Margarito takes a great shot and that he has amazing stamina, so the body attack should have been line one of Team Cotto's strategy. Watching the fight a second time, Cotto gave away many opportunities to go hard to the body by countering to the head. I'm not saying that Cotto would have taken Margarito out with a body shot, but I do think that it would have been his best bet to slow Margarito down and sap some strength from his punches. Also, Margarito may be relentless, but he really isn't the power puncher that Cotto made him appear to be. Cotto back pedaled and moved around like Rocky in the rematch with "Clubber" Lang. Although he looked sharp doing so, I think that his excessive movement did more to sap his energy than it did to open up opportunities to counter. I think Miguel would be much better off by standing his ground more in the center of the ring and trying to control more of each round with his jab (which is much faster and sharper than Margarito's). Cotto has solid power, and, though I don't believe that he would KO Margarito in a rematch, I think he would be able to land more hurtful blows on Margarito if he settled downed and punched like he can. Again, Cotto looked pretty sweet when he moved and countered, but whenever he did land, he was already thinking about moving away. That he is able to do this shows his versatility, but I don't think that is the most effective Cotto.

          I like both guys, and I think the rematch is just about a pick 'em, but I would probably lean toward Cotto if I had to bet. Cotto seems to be one of the most intelligent and versatile fighters in the sport, so I think he can make the adjustments to win. Whether he was inclined to do so or not, I really don't think that Margarito can fight any other way.
          Last edited by NachoMan; 07-29-2008, 10:15 PM.

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          • After a few fights he could beat Margarito, not now. I didn't see a beating from Margarito, the fight was close, with some adjustments he could beat the Tijuana Tornado.

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            • Originally posted by ragingvic View Post
              People need to learn to let things go. Cotto not only got knocked out but would have lost via decision. He is still one of the best fighters today, but he lost to margarito end of story, no rematch required.
              Nobody gives a **** what you think, so **** you.

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              • OK ENOUGH if a rematch is set cotto will dance around the ropes and waste his energy. **** margarito took his BEST ****ING PUNCHES and was smiling cotto saw that and said DIOS MIO JESUS HELP imma get my ass kicked i got the tornado knocking out cotto in round 6

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                • I just don't understand why everyone keeps talking about he should have gone to the body more. USE YOUR HEADS! And read what's been said a million times on these boards already as to why he didn't go to the body. You think he just forgot?? This is Miguel Cotto we're talking about - that's what he does, even on reflex. If he didn't go to the body enough, try and figure out WHY!

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                  • Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
                    I agree that Cotto fought well, but I think there are definitely things that he could do differently the second time around to reverse the outcome. Though he showed excellent footwork and hand speed throughout the fight, I agree with the writer (despite his horrific grammar) that Cotto made a huge error by not committing to body punching. Everyone knows that Margarito takes a great shot and that he has amazing stamina, so the body attack should have been line one of Team Cotto's strategy. Watching the fight a second time, Cotto gave away many opportunities to go hard to the body by countering to the head. I'm not saying that Cotto would have taken Margarito out with a body shot, but I do think that it would have been his best bet to slow Margarito down and sap some strength from his punches. Also, Margarito may be relentless, but he really isn't the power puncher that Cotto made him appear to be. Cotto back pedaled and moved around like Rocky in the rematch with "Clubber" Lang. Although he looked sharp doing so, I think that his excessive movement did more to sap his energy than it did to open up opportunities to counter. I think Miguel would be much better off by standing his ground more in the center of the ring and trying to control more of each round with his jab (which is much faster and sharper than Margarito's). Cotto has solid power, and, though I don't believe that he would KO Margarito in a rematch, I think he would be able to land more hurtful blows on Margarito if he settled downed and punched like he can. Again, Cotto looked pretty sweet when he moved and countered, but whenever he did land, he was already thinking about moving away. That he is able to do this shows his versatility, but I don't think that is the most effective Cotto.

                    I like both guys, and I think the rematch is just about a pick 'em, but I would probably lean toward Cotto if I had to bet. Cotto seems to be one of the most intelligent and versatile fighters in the sport, so I think he can make the adjustments to win. Whether he was inclined to do so or not, I really don't think that Margarito can fight any other way.
                    Major problems with your analyses,

                    #1 - About the body punching, in order to attack the body convincingly you need to be in front of your opponent to land to the body effectively. You could jab to the body and move but to land hard effective punches, you will need to stand with your opponent, something I highly don't recommend to Cotto unless he wants a repeat performance.

                    Also, Cotto tends to dip his head forward when throwing to the body, as most do and Margs best punch is the left uppercut. Not a good combination if you ask me.

                    #2 - Standing his ground and sitting on his punches more. Wow, where do I start, I think Cotto did try and do this to some extent if you watch the fight very closely but it's easier said than done when you are getting hit with hard left hooks down low and then are being pushed backwards by a bigger stronger man.

                    If Cotto stands in the middle of the ring and holds his ground more, he will have success and maybe land better punches but so will Marg. It will end quicker than what it did in the first fight if he decides to stand and trade with Marg and his corner knows this.

                    If you hear the corner of Cotto (in spanish) they were telling him to get off the ropes and don't stand in front of him...move, move move!!

                    Miguel Cotto is his presser in Puerto Rico when he flew in said, "We tried strategy A, B and C and nothing seemed to be working. We tried everything we could and gave it 100%."

                    The rematch would be much of the same......

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                    • WTF is the point of this article?! Cotto lost fair and square let it go already. It's as if margarito didn't do anything to deserve a victory. LET ME SAY THIS CLEARLY, COTTO WAS BEAT BY MARGARIOT!!! MARGARITO DID NOT WIN BECAUSE OF SOME OVERSIGHT BY TEAM COTTO. This article is pathetic.

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