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  • Dynamite Kid
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    does anyone think Cotto would have been more illusive safer if

    does anyone think Cotto would have been more illusive safer if he had stood more infront of Marg and got closer so he could have gone more to the body more, not literally stand infront of him but at mid range where he could hit Marg and try evade the counters by using the angles or tuck up better or hold Marg a bit more and not give Marg the chance to get the extension on his punches to find his power ,i think he paid a big price for letting Marg come to him so much i think he would have got hit less if he had been able to keep Marg busy by throwing shots at him ,rather than backing up a letting Marg walk him down where he could trap him on the ropes and **** away at his body and tire him out ,Margarito was able to hit Cotto hard aswell because Cotto let him get his weight on his front foot by coming foward it stands to reason u can punch harder when your weight is on your front foot as apose to your backfoot ,Evander Holyfield recognise this and that is why he did not allow Mike Tyson to back him up he took away his power by sticking him on his heels

    Clottey stood at mid range against Marg and handled him quite easily for 5/6 rounds and Williams just kept him busy by throwing shots and keeping him playing defence ,biggest problem for Cotto in this fight was he shipped to much punishmnt even when Marg was missing wildly Cotto was having to work twice as hard to win the rounds and that played into Margs hands cause even though he was winning the rounds it was taking a lot outta him, it was a but like Taylor winning the early rounds against Pavlik u could see he was edging them but he was busting a gut trying to keep Pavlik off him
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    A big yes, Cotto was the better skilled boxer, He could have stood in the pocket and use his better boxing skills to evade margarito's shot while landing his own cleaner and crispier shots, He gave margarito too much space for him to be able to stretch his long arm.

    I hate to say the way Hatton fought tsyzu and the way clottey fought Margarito would have been perfect for cotto, There is NO point of a rematch if cotto is going to do the samething again...it wasnt about stamina but about how much powershots margarito was able to land on cotto which slowed him down.

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      #3
      Originally posted by raycorey
      A big yes, Cotto was the better skilled boxer, He could have stood in the pocket and use his better boxing skills to evade margarito's shot while landing his own cleaner and crispier shots, He gave margarito too much space for him to be able to stretch his long arm.

      I hate to say the way Hatton fought tsyzu and the way clottey fought Margarito would have been perfect for cotto, There is NO point of a rematch if cotto is going to do the samething again...it wasnt about stamina but about how much powershots margarito was able to land on cotto which slowed him down.

      i agree 100 % son

      Cotto proved while backing up he had the skills to stay in the pocket and hit Marg at will the problem was as we both pointed out he let Marg get on the front foot to much where he could load up

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        #4
        Originally posted by raycorey
        A big yes, Cotto was the better skilled boxer, He could have stood in the pocket and use his better boxing skills to evade margarito's shot while landing his own cleaner and crispier shots, He gave margarito too much space for him to be able to stretch his long arm.

        I hate to say the way Hatton fought tsyzu and the way clottey fought Margarito would have been perfect for cotto, There is NO point of a rematch if cotto is going to do the samething again...it wasnt about stamina but about how much powershots margarito was able to land on cotto which slowed him down.
        u are right to point out Hatton's win over Tszyu aswell cause Hatton took Tszyu power away by smoothering and keeping him backing up and denying him the space and time to get the extension on his shots

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          I think it was more possible in the earlier rounds, Cotto could have committed to the body more so we could see how Margarito could take a left hook. In the later rounds he was still getting tired from all of that constant movement & punching. If he could have stayed in the pocket I still have a feeling Margarito would catch him as the fight pressed o because Margarito only gets stronger. I also think Physically, Clottey may be stronger than Cotto and he has a much better chin. So the game plan may have worked for him but even then he was getting tired from the constant punch after punch barrage from Margarito.

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            When Cotto stood up and traded Margarito always retreated. But, when Cotto went back to the ropes and ran he was ****ed. He should have circled Margarito instead of running to the ropes and traded with Margarito.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Tuplick_shaKur
              I think it was more possible in the earlier rounds, Cotto could have committed to the body more so we could see how Margarito could take a left hook. In the later rounds he was still getting tired from all of that constant movement & punching. If he could have stayed in the pocket I still have a feeling Margarito would catch him as the fight pressed o because Margarito only gets stronger. I also think Physically, Clottey may be stronger than Cotto and he has a much better chin. So the game plan may have worked for him but even then he was getting tired from the constant punch after punch barrage from Margarito.
              yeah i can see that to i just feel that Cotto did not go to the body cause he did not wanna get close enough to Marg to land there we all know how dangerous it is to throw Body punches it is from the outside
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-28-2008, 06:12 PM.

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              • el malo
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                yes, he couldve done better with side to side movement and staying away from the ropes, and going to the body. I think him tiring out and staying on the ropes too long led to his down fall, I think he could do much better next time with the proper adjustments.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by P4PKING_2008
                  When Cotto stood up and traded Margarito always retreated. But, when Cotto went back to the ropes and ran he was ****ed. He should have circled Margarito instead of running to the ropes and traded with Margarito.
                  Yep, he had to keep doing it though. Those 6 punch combinations had Marg backing up, but then Cotto would fight backwards to the ropes. He should have used more of the ring vs. just the perimiter of the ring.

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                  • slicksouthpaw16
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                    He would have been tore up worse IMO. He was boxing beautifully and even then he was worned down and stopped. If he would have stood in pocket, then he would have spent more energy and would be fighting Margarito's fight and giving him his opportunities. Margarito already showed that he could take everything that he had to dish out so you want to use your advantages to your advantage. Margarito had only one way of winning and that was by coming foward. Cotto could win both ways but he had the advantage of posesing boxing ability so it was smart to use that. He would have been stopped sooner if he fought Margarito more IMO.

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