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  • #91
    Originally posted by Audie78 View Post
    I'm not stating he hurt him i'm stating a fact that you can get in and **** him up, and he will allow it.
    Margarito also isnt as fast as Hatton, nor does he have the footwork...

    Margarito is too damn slow. He made Cotto look like Speed Racer..
    and HATTON is 3x times faster than cotto

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    • #92
      i dont agree that cotto didn't do anything wrong. plenty of people called it before the fight: cotto leans too much, and leaves himself open to uppercuts. in some exchanges, tony was landing consecutive uppercuts. you would think after the first one that cotto would pull back but he doesn't. he just hangs his head out there over and over.

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      • #93
        a few mistakes....

        1. going to the rope and taking too many shots from margarito.

        2. running around is ok, because margarito is very tall and dangerous. but running around with ur hands low is NOT ok.

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        • #94
          Granted footwork will be a factior , so whats floyd to do? dance around the ring and not get into harms way? just get them a smaller ring =) should fix that issue.

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          • #95
            The only thing he did wrong, and what made his eventual undoing was leaning forward and eating uppercuts and body shots.

            Cotto fought a perfect fight the first 6 rounds, he did everything right to beat Tony. He got caught against the ropes in the seventh, got his nose broken and took some nasty body shots and that was the beginning of the end.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
              Miguel Cotto made a number of mistakes (IMHO). As I was watching the fight, I was observing these.

              1) Where was the bodywork? Miguel went almost exclusively upstairs. While he was snapping Tony's head, he failed to balance his attack by employing jabs to the stomach to disrupt Tony, and left hooks to the body to soften TM up.

              2) Too much movement. FMJ is often called a "runner". I have watched every FMJ fight since he was a prospect. I have NEVER seen him run as much as Miguel did. While some (SOME!) of that movement was warranted, Migs wasted GOBS of energy with the 10K that he ran in the ring. Where was the clinching? Clinching eats up time, and gives you a breather. Why didn't he ever tie Tony up and walk him back? If you look at fights like FMJ/hatton, or Oscar/Vargas, they tied their man up, or used smart breaks to take some of the steam off. You can't RUN for 12 rounds. Running backwards and changing directions uses more energy than the guy who is just walking forward. Imagine if Tony had even the slightest inkling on how to cut off a ring.

              3) Quitto kept it on the perimeter. Who has done well against Tony? Clottey? Yes. Williams? Surely. Where were those fights fought? Largely in the center of the ring. Up close. Who has done really poorly against TM? Golden. Cintron. and now Quito. Where did they all get knocked out? against the ropes. You can't stay at arms length vs a tall man. Sugar Ray Leonard found that out vs Hearns, and that is why he came inside and became the ****er. Quitto's mistake is that he was ending up on the powerful part of Tony's punches, instead of stepping inside and smothering that power. He allowed Margie to have full leverage. Never tied him up with elbows, forearms, holding, etc.

              4) One pace. Think about the fight. You almost can't distinguish one round from the next. The fight was going by so fast for two reasons: a) it was a very good fight. But b) because it was the same **** happening over and over. Do you remember when Floyd had ricky hurt at the end of round 8? What did he do in round 9? Move in for the kill? No. He jabbed Ricky silly. Changed the pace. Kept the guy off balance. Boxing is about adjustments. Miguel just kept circling and countering, and Tony kept getting closer and closer. Against Shane, Miguel made the late-round adjustment to backpedal and box. Against Tony, he tried that tactic for the WHOLE FIGHT. This sounds strange to say, but the fight I was reminded of mostly was Taylor-Chavez.

              5) "Don't try this at home". There are guys who can sit on the ropes and defend and who feel very comfortable there. They can stay on the ropes and avoid leather all night. Those guys have names like Whitaker and Mayweather. Miguel, you are a terrific fighter. But that isn't your game. You are not Pea. And you are not Floyd. When you went to the ropes, you basically sat there and countered....but you ate leather.

              6)Don't read your own press. Everybody was saying that the fight turned into the fight they expected. That was good for Tony, and bad for Miguel. Tony is largely a one-trick pony. Miguelhas the more comprehensive skills package. I believe that Quitto pretty much bought in to all the experts opinions. I'm not saying that he relied on that. But he certainly felt that his superior boxing (that earned the early 3:1 odds) was enough to win.


              That is the Dios viewpoint. I may become smarter after breakfast. Later.
              Actually, its more simple than that, you could just resume it in one sentence, go to MMA or look like a total **** and duck the guy! He would've never made all those mistakes, it takes a genius fighter to do that, but, he's a quitter.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by gerardofpr View Post
                Actually, its more simple than that, you could just resume it in one sentence, go to MMA or look like a total **** and duck the guy! He would've never made all those mistakes, it takes a genius fighter to do that, but, he's a quitter.
                These Ricans are about to kill themselves.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by josenoway View Post
                  i dont agree that cotto didn't do anything wrong. plenty of people called it before the fight: cotto leans too much, and leaves himself open to uppercuts. in some exchanges, tony was landing consecutive uppercuts. you would think after the first one that cotto would pull back but he doesn't. he just hangs his head out there over and over.
                  judah's best shots on Miguel were the uppercuts.


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                  • #99
                    he woulda been better off moving forward and swinging
                    not everyone can move around the ring and throw shots for 12 rounds

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                    • Originally posted by MindBat View Post
                      Hey, beauty.

                      Long time no see!

                      I could hear many jaws all over the world dropping to the floor from my house.

                      Do know sign language?



                      HEY!!!!


                      I know. Been very busy the last few months!!! I keep up with the forums, just been too busy to post.

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