The Morning-After Pill: What Miguel Quitto did wrong....

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Man you can't lie. That was a good read. I liked the (Don't do this at home part) In my opinion, that was the reason why Cotto got beaten so bad.

The "Way Too Much Movement" point I'd concur with.

If Cotto used less bicycling and more sidestepping like one Bernard Hopkins does......he wouldn't gas out from the wasted movement.

As it stood, his legs tired out a bit from that.



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And Tony has zero clue how to cut off the ring.

I honestly don't think he's even been introduced to that concept before.

I'm not hating on my boy, I'm saying clearly.



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Cotto didn't lose that night because of shortcomings in skill. I'm sure when he watches the tape there are things he sees that he would do differently but he displayed expceptional speed, accuracy and defensive work but in the end he used up too much energy too early on and his punches had not done enough to slow his opponent.

If you think Cotto speed, accuracy,and defensive foot were exceptional.

Just Imagine Mayweather would have done to Margarito.

Mayweather 20x faster than Cotto
Mayweather 50x more accurate than Cotto
Mayweather 1000x better defensive foot work better than Cotto.

This is the point some people dont get when looking at Mayweather.
The only way for Floyd to be consider to be a in FAIR FIGHT.

is a fight in where he is at a huge disadvantage in some area.

Think about that.?


NAME 5 OTHER FIGHTERS IN HISTORY THAT HAD THAT
PERCEPTION..!!!!


Why is that Floyd mayweather can not be in a fight where he is not at a huge disadvantage. in order for it to be a fair fight.

But nobody says anything where every other fighter does it.


That perception right there...tells you how great he is...
The Perception is, Floyd has to fight at a disadvantage for it to be a fair fight.!

AND THE ONE TIME MIGUEL COTTO HAD TO FIGHT AT A DISADVANTAGE...
HE COULD NOT HANDLE IT.!!!


THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GREAT FIGHTERS, and GOOD FIGHTERS..
Thats the differences Be Legends and non legends
THATS THE DIFFERENCE between Mayweather and Cotto.

[MayweatherJr.]

Miguel Cotto made a number of mistakes (IMHO). As I was watching the fight, I was observing these.

1) Where was the bodywork? Miguel went almost exclusively upstairs. While he was snapping Tony's head, he failed to balance his attack by employing jabs to the stomach to disrupt Tony, and left hooks to the body to soften TM up.

2) Too much movement. FMJ is often called a "runner". I have watched every FMJ fight since he was a prospect. I have NEVER seen him run as much as Miguel did. While some (SOME!) of that movement was warranted, Migs wasted GOBS of energy with the 10K that he ran in the ring. Where was the clinching? Clinching eats up time, and gives you a breather. Why didn't he ever tie Tony up and walk him back? If you look at fights like FMJ/hatton, or Oscar/Vargas, they tied their man up, or used smart breaks to take some of the steam off. You can't RUN for 12 rounds. Running backwards and changing directions uses more energy than the guy who is just walking forward. Imagine if Tony had even the slightest inkling on how to cut off a ring.

3) Quitto kept it on the perimeter. Who has done well against Tony? Clottey? Yes. Williams? Surely. Where were those fights fought? Largely in the center of the ring. Up close. Who has done really poorly against TM? Golden. Cintron. and now Quito. Where did they all get knocked out? against the ropes. You can't stay at arms length vs a tall man. Sugar Ray Leonard found that out vs Hearns, and that is why he came inside and became the ****er. Quitto's mistake is that he was ending up on the powerful part of Tony's punches, instead of stepping inside and smothering that power. He allowed Margie to have full leverage. Never tied him up with elbows, forearms, holding, etc.

4) One pace. Think about the fight. You almost can't distinguish one round from the next. The fight was going by so fast for two reasons: a) it was a very good fight. But b) because it was the same **** happening over and over. Do you remember when Floyd had ricky hurt at the end of round 8? What did he do in round 9? Move in for the kill? No. He jabbed Ricky silly. Changed the pace. Kept the guy off balance. Boxing is about adjustments. Miguel just kept circling and countering, and Tony kept getting closer and closer. Against Shane, Miguel made the late-round adjustment to backpedal and box. Against Tony, he tried that tactic for the WHOLE FIGHT. This sounds strange to say, but the fight I was reminded of mostly was Taylor-Chavez.

5) "Don't try this at home". There are guys who can sit on the ropes and defend and who feel very comfortable there. They can stay on the ropes and avoid leather all night. Those guys have names like Whitaker and Mayweather. Miguel, you are a terrific fighter. But that isn't your game. You are not Pea. And you are not Floyd. When you went to the ropes, you basically sat there and countered....but you ate leather.

6)Don't read your own press. Everybody was saying that the fight turned into the fight they expected. That was good for Tony, and bad for Miguel. Tony is largely a one-trick pony. Miguelhas the more comprehensive skills package. I believe that Quitto pretty much bought in to all the experts opinions. I'm not saying that he relied on that. But he certainly felt that his superior boxing (that earned the early 3:1 odds) was enough to win.

That is the Dios viewpoint. I may become smarter after breakfast. Later.

Don't know how could anyone disagree with you. Thumbs up!

[MayweatherJr.]

Too much backpedalling from the begining, No bodyshot/bodywork etc

You summed it all up. Good post!

[Mozza]

If you think Cotto speed, accuracy,and defensive foot were exceptional.

Just Imagine Mayweather would have done to Margarito.

Mayweather 20x faster than Cotto
Mayweather 50x more accurate than Cotto
Mayweather 1000x better defensive foot work better than Cotto.

This is the point some people dont get when looking at Mayweather.
The only way for Floyd to be consider to be a in FAIR FIGHT.

is a fight in where he is at a huge disadvantage in some area.

Think about that.?


NAME 5 OTHER FIGHTERS IN HISTORY THAT HAD THAT
PERCEPTION..!!!!


Why is that Floyd mayweather can not be in a fight where he is not at a huge disadvantage. in order for it to be a fair fight.

But nobody says anything where every other fighter does it.


That perception right there...tells you how great he is...
The Perception is, Floyd has to fight at a disadvantage for it to be a fair fight.!

I'm guessing that you are deliberately exaggerating about how much better Mayweather is than Cotto in the departments mentioned but I agree that Mayweather would have been a cut above Margarito.

[Horus]

I'm guessing that you are deliberately exaggerating about how much better Mayweather is than Cotto in the departments mentioned but I agree that Mayweather would have been a cut above Margarito.

Mozza the point i am trying to make is that dont discredit Floyd and all the work he has done. To praise a fighter who havent even accomplish half of what floyd has accomplish. Its disrespectful

[Mozza]

Mozza the point i am trying to make is that dont discredit Floyd and all the work he has done. To praise a fighter who havent even accomplish half of what floyd has accomplish. Its disrespectful

Fair enough. Floyd does get too much criticism, I myself have been guilty of this and it is a great shame that he has retired from the sport.

[Pico Hollywood]

Miguel Cotto made a number of mistakes (IMHO). As I was watching the fight, I was observing these.

1) Where was the bodywork? Miguel went almost exclusively upstairs. While he was snapping Tony's head, he failed to balance his attack by employing jabs to the stomach to disrupt Tony, and left hooks to the body to soften TM up.

2) Too much movement. FMJ is often called a "runner". I have watched every FMJ fight since he was a prospect. I have NEVER seen him run as much as Miguel did. While some (SOME!) of that movement was warranted, Migs wasted GOBS of energy with the 10K that he ran in the ring. Where was the clinching? Clinching eats up time, and gives you a breather. Why didn't he ever tie Tony up and walk him back? If you look at fights like FMJ/hatton, or Oscar/Vargas, they tied their man up, or used smart breaks to take some of the steam off. You can't RUN for 12 rounds. Running backwards and changing directions uses more energy than the guy who is just walking forward. Imagine if Tony had even the slightest inkling on how to cut off a ring.

3) Quitto kept it on the perimeter. Who has done well against Tony? Clottey? Yes. Williams? Surely. Where were those fights fought? Largely in the center of the ring. Up close. Who has done really poorly against TM? Golden. Cintron. and now Quito. Where did they all get knocked out? against the ropes. You can't stay at arms length vs a tall man. Sugar Ray Leonard found that out vs Hearns, and that is why he came inside and became the ****er. Quitto's mistake is that he was ending up on the powerful part of Tony's punches, instead of stepping inside and smothering that power. He allowed Margie to have full leverage. Never tied him up with elbows, forearms, holding, etc.

4) One pace. Think about the fight. You almost can't distinguish one round from the next. The fight was going by so fast for two reasons: a) it was a very good fight. But b) because it was the same **** happening over and over. Do you remember when Floyd had ricky hurt at the end of round 8? What did he do in round 9? Move in for the kill? No. He jabbed Ricky silly. Changed the pace. Kept the guy off balance. Boxing is about adjustments. Miguel just kept circling and countering, and Tony kept getting closer and closer. Against Shane, Miguel made the late-round adjustment to backpedal and box. Against Tony, he tried that tactic for the WHOLE FIGHT. This sounds strange to say, but the fight I was reminded of mostly was Taylor-Chavez.

5) "Don't try this at home". There are guys who can sit on the ropes and defend and who feel very comfortable there. They can stay on the ropes and avoid leather all night. Those guys have names like Whitaker and Mayweather. Miguel, you are a terrific fighter. But that isn't your game. You are not Pea. And you are not Floyd. When you went to the ropes, you basically sat there and countered....but you ate leather.

6)Don't read your own press. Everybody was saying that the fight turned into the fight they expected. That was good for Tony, and bad for Miguel. Tony is largely a one-trick pony. Miguelhas the more comprehensive skills package. I believe that Quitto pretty much bought in to all the experts opinions. I'm not saying that he relied on that. But he certainly felt that his superior boxing (that earned the early 3:1 odds) was enough to win.

That is the Dios viewpoint. I may become smarter after breakfast. Later.

Agree completly

[SupremeElectron]

Miguel Cotto made a number of mistakes (IMHO). As I was watching the fight, I was observing these.

1) Where was the bodywork? Miguel went almost exclusively upstairs. While he was snapping Tony's head, he failed to balance his attack by employing jabs to the stomach to disrupt Tony, and left hooks to the body to soften TM up.

2) Too much movement. FMJ is often called a "runner". I have watched every FMJ fight since he was a prospect. I have NEVER seen him run as much as Miguel did. While some (SOME!) of that movement was warranted, Migs wasted GOBS of energy with the 10K that he ran in the ring. Where was the clinching? Clinching eats up time, and gives you a breather. Why didn't he ever tie Tony up and walk him back? If you look at fights like FMJ/hatton, or Oscar/Vargas, they tied their man up, or used smart breaks to take some of the steam off. You can't RUN for 12 rounds. Running backwards and changing directions uses more energy than the guy who is just walking forward. Imagine if Tony had even the slightest inkling on how to cut off a ring.

3) Quitto kept it on the perimeter. Who has done well against Tony? Clottey? Yes. Williams? Surely. Where were those fights fought? Largely in the center of the ring. Up close. Who has done really poorly against TM? Golden. Cintron. and now Quito. Where did they all get knocked out? against the ropes. You can't stay at arms length vs a tall man. Sugar Ray Leonard found that out vs Hearns, and that is why he came inside and became the ****er. Quitto's mistake is that he was ending up on the powerful part of Tony's punches, instead of stepping inside and smothering that power. He allowed Margie to have full leverage. Never tied him up with elbows, forearms, holding, etc.

4) One pace. Think about the fight. You almost can't distinguish one round from the next. The fight was going by so fast for two reasons: a) it was a very good fight. But b) because it was the same **** happening over and over. Do you remember when Floyd had ricky hurt at the end of round 8? What did he do in round 9? Move in for the kill? No. He jabbed Ricky silly. Changed the pace. Kept the guy off balance. Boxing is about adjustments. Miguel just kept circling and countering, and Tony kept getting closer and closer. Against Shane, Miguel made the late-round adjustment to backpedal and box. Against Tony, he tried that tactic for the WHOLE FIGHT. This sounds strange to say, but the fight I was reminded of mostly was Taylor-Chavez.

5) "Don't try this at home". There are guys who can sit on the ropes and defend and who feel very comfortable there. They can stay on the ropes and avoid leather all night. Those guys have names like Whitaker and Mayweather. Miguel, you are a terrific fighter. But that isn't your game. You are not Pea. And you are not Floyd. When you went to the ropes, you basically sat there and countered....but you ate leather.

6)Don't read your own press. Everybody was saying that the fight turned into the fight they expected. That was good for Tony, and bad for Miguel. Tony is largely a one-trick pony. Miguelhas the more comprehensive skills package. I believe that Quitto pretty much bought in to all the experts opinions. I'm not saying that he relied on that. But he certainly felt that his superior boxing (that earned the early 3:1 odds) was enough to win.

That is the Dios viewpoint. I may become smarter after breakfast. Later.

that was a pretty solid assesment of the fight, but the name quitto is disrespectful to a guy that fought his balls off...