Does anyone think Margarito could ''Castillio'' Mayweather??

[slicksouthpaw16]

He had a rotator cuff injury so he couldn't use his left arm like he would have likes and I thought the second fight wasn't as close as the first fight.



This post explains it all for me.

For example, Malinaggi is an excellent boxer, fast and has a lot of technical ability and athleticism. However, he did not have the punch to keep Cotto off of him. Judah and Mosley had the power to keep him off so they did not get punished as much as Malinaggi did. Do you see what i am getting at now? How would Mayweather keep Margarito off of him when he doesn't have that punch at welterweight?

[QuebecSTAR]

For example, Malinaggi is an excellent boxer, fast and has a lot of technical ability and athleticism. However, he did not have the punch to keep Cotto off of him. Judah and Mosley had the power to keep him off so they did not get punished as much as Malinaggi did. Do you see what i am getting at now?

How would Mayweather keep Margarito off of him when he doesn't have that punch at welterweight?

easy! he run in circles and wins a UD.

[slicksouthpaw16]

easy! he run in circles and wins a UD.

Boldimer allowed Mayweather to do that becuase he is not naturally a consistant pressure fighter. At sometime during the fight, Mayweather would have to stand his ground and keep this guy off of him becuase he is not letting him.

[Silencers]

For example, Malinaggi is an excellent boxer, fast and has a lot of technical ability and athleticism. However, he did not have the punch to keep Cotto off of him. Judah and Mosley had the power to keep him off so they did not get punished as much as Malinaggi did. Do you see what i am getting at now? How would Mayweather keep Margarito off of him when he doesn't have that punch at welterweight?

By using his feet, Malignaggi doesn't move as well as Mayweather and gets a little predictable in his movements, Mayweather does not and Judah took a lot of punishment in their fight.

You just have to look at the first 5 rounds of Cotto-Margarito to see what Mayweather would have done for the whole 12.

The speed differential would be too much for Margarito to overcome IMO.

As I said, styles make fights and Margarito's style is suited to Mayweather's.

[slicksouthpaw16]

By using his feet, Malignaggi doesn't move as well as Mayweather and gets a little predictable in his movements, Mayweather does not and Judah took a lot of punishment in their fight.

You just have to look at the first 5 rounds of Cotto-Margarito to see what Mayweather would have done for the whole 12.

The speed differential would be too much for Margarito to overcome IMO.

As I said, styles make fights and Margarito's style is suited to Mayweather's.

Again, Margarito was just heating up by that point and was just getting into his game. Cotto actually boxed better during the latter stages of the fight, it was just that Margarito adapted to that and showed that he could cut off the ring. His corner told him to up the pressure and throw more punches and he did that. Cotto also had the power to keep him off while he was getting warmed up.

Also, Judah took a lot of punishment in the later stages of his fight with Cotto. He won a lot of those earlier rounds and Cotto had to break him down before putting his punches together late. Judah was very dangerous early and Cotto came out differently with Malinaggi. He just bum rushed Malinaggi becuase he didn't have the power to keep him off and Cotto dominated virtually every round of that fight.

[Silencers]

Again, Margarito was just heating up by that point and was just getting into his game. Cotto actually boxed better during the latter stages of the fight, it was just that Margarito adapted to that and showed that he could cut off the ring. His corner told him to up the pressure and throw more punches and he did that. Cotto also had the power to keep him off while he was getting warmed up.

Also, Judah took a lot of punishment in the later stages of his fight with Cotto. He won a lot of those earlier rounds and Cotto had to break him down before putting his punches together late. Judah was very dangerous early and Cotto came out differently with Malinaggi. He just bum rushed Malinaggi becuase he didn't have the power to keep him off and Cotto dominated virtually every round of that fight.

I thought Cotto was doing better in the first five rounds, rounds 8 and 9 were pretty good for Cotto but it wasn't as good as the first 5 rounds, the way to beat Margarito is not with power, it's with speed and movement, Cotto showed that in the first 5 rounds, Williams showed it as well, he threw his combinations and moved, not letting Margarito get his feet set, which is what Mayweather will do and if Margarito somehow manages to adapt to Mayweather's style, Mayweather would adapt his own style to get back the advantage, that's one of the things that Mayweather does best.

Again, styles make fights.

I don't think Judah won more than 3 rounds against Cotto, Cotto systematically broke Judah down from the 4th or 5th round onwards.

[mr ko]

Even after tonights fight, I still think Cotto has a better chance against PBF than Margarito. He has more weapons to use than Margarito.

[El Jesus]

I just look at it like this, if Margarito didn't care about Cotto's power, then why would he care about Mayweather's? When you have a pressure fighter that is relentess like that, then you will need to land something big to get his respect and Mayweather does not have a punch at welterweight.

For the person that told me to look at what happened in first 6 rounds with Cotto, Margarito is a slow starter and he was just warming up by 6th round. Hes one of those fighters that gets stronger as the rounds went on. At first, i thought that Margarito was just a wide open ****er, but he was getting full leverage on those power punches and was using his reach when he had Cotto on the ropes to land his power punches. If Mayweather struggled with Oscar's reach, then he would have problems with Margarito's IMO. Even years back before this fight, i have always new that he would give Mayweather hell. I'm not saying he would beat Floyd, but he is very dangerous and would be one of Floyd's harder fights.

When Cotto moved, margarito couldnt catch him, when cotto exchanged he got the better of him each time, margarito won because cotto stopped, slowed down and hung out on the ropes and got hit with the same **** he always gets hit with, mayweather isnt vunerable in the same way Cotto is and margaritos power isnt devastating, mayweather even against the ropes would see it all coming and land vicious power shots, the movement would confuse margarito because that guy is terrible with cutting off the ring, he has no real jab.

Man i think i told you this before, its gonna take another Zab to put mayweather out, flatout brawlers/pressure fighters dont really do the trick with that guy because he adjusts.

[El Jesus]

For example, Malinaggi is an excellent boxer, fast and has a lot of technical ability and athleticism. However, he did not have the punch to keep Cotto off of him. Judah and Mosley had the power to keep him off so they did not get punished as much as Malinaggi did. Do you see what i am getting at now? How would Mayweather keep Margarito off of him when he doesn't have that punch at welterweight?

But malignaggi isnt exactly a fighter who can adjust his gameplan to someone like cotto if something isnt working, malignaggi is also hittable as well as lacking a real inside fight game.


Also, you are forgetting the frustration factor, that thing that happens when you realize you arent going to catch mayweather and he can see your punches from a mile away, margarito would be taking jabs to the body, uppercuts and punches to the face, while he wont be hurt, he will get pissed off like everyone else does and mayweather will likely change his gameplan, give him a different look and then the boos will reign in and the HBO announcers will ask why he chose this fight knowing it would be a easy UD12.

[slicksouthpaw16]

When Cotto moved, margarito couldnt catch him, when cotto exchanged he got the better of him each time, margarito won because cotto stopped, slowed down and hung out on the ropes and got hit with the same **** he always gets hit with, mayweather isnt vunerable in the same way Cotto is and margaritos power isnt devastating, mayweather even against the ropes would see it all coming and land vicious power shots, the movement would confuse margarito because that guy is terrible with cutting off the ring, he has no real jab.

Man i think i told you this before, its gonna take another Zab to put mayweather out, flatout brawlers/pressure fighters dont really do the trick with that guy because he adjusts.

Very few fighters could out box Mayweather in history and none could do it in this era, with the exception of maybe Zab Judah at junior welterweight, Vernon Forrest at welterweight or a young De La Hoya. You have to be a fighter that mixes boxing ability with thier educated pressure like a young Roberto Duran or Miguel Cotto. That is what threw Mayweather off when he fought Castillio and De La Hoya.