bernard hopkins vs joe calzaghe prime vs prime

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  • ИATAS
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    #171
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    There's a reason Hopkins hid out at MW till he was 41 and only fought Calzaghe after making him come up in weight, fighting him in his first fight there. Lol at people questioning Joe's stamina.
    take your racist ass back to the lounge

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      #172
      Short video clip of Prime Hopkins vs Prime Calzaghe:

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #173
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        take your racist ass back to the lounge
        No need for the ad hominem attack, kiddo.

        There's a reason Hopkins melted down to MW and hid out there his almost his whole career, never bothering to rematch Jones until he was shot or fight Toney, Calzaghe, anyone. Instead he hid out and chased the Allen trilogy and a couple of blown up WWs/SFWs.

        He has developed into a pretty decent boxer, save the numerous headbutts and clinches, but his MW run definitely wasn't the greatest. And while the Pascal win was impressive (more than the Pavlik he dragged up two weight classes,) he certainly avoided fighting Dawson like the plague.
        Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 03-02-2011, 04:18 PM.

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          #174
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          No need for the ad hominems, kiddo.

          There's a reason Hopkins melted down to MW and hid out there his almost his whole career, never bothering to rematch Jones until he was shot or fight Toney, Calzaghe, anyone. Instead he hid out and chased the Allen trilogy and a couple of blown up WWs/SFWs.

          He has developed into a pretty decent boxer, save the numerous headbutts and clinches, but his MW run definitely wasn't the greatest. And while the Pascal win was impressive (more than the Pavlik he dragged up two weight classes,) he certainly avoided fighting Dawson like the plague.
          This is hilarious so what was Calzaghe doing in Wales then? Busy unifying the titles against other great champs or holding on to that lonely WBO belt fighting guys like Tocker Pudwill and Mario Veit? hypocrite. Can't come at me with that nonsense.

          Hopkins resume >>>>>>>>>> calzaghe's
          and it's not even close.

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            #175
            Originally posted by ИATAS206
            This is hilarious so what was Calzaghe doing in Wales then? Busy unifying the titles against other great champs or holding on to that lonely WBO belt fighting guys like Tocker Pudwill and Mario Veit? hypocrite. Can't come at me with that nonsense.

            Hopkins resume >>>>>>>>>> calzaghe's
            and it's not even close.
            Resumes and individual match ups are two completely different things. I don't think there's any doubt that Calzaghe avoided Jones Jr (to avoid getting beaten) and Ottke (to avoid getting robbed,) and he was definitely protected until late in his career, but that doesn't change the fact that Hopkins hid out at MW most of his career, thereby avoiding great fighters at 168 and 175.

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              #176
              in his prime hopkins would outclass calzaghe. im not one to call ppl ****** just cuz they happen to disagree with me but i really cant see how anyone can make a case for calzaghe here. you would have to overrate calzaghe and underrate hopkins at the same time to even think it would be close.

              hopkins wins every round and knocks him out in 8.

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                #177
                Its a shame Hopkins didnt want to find out the answer to this

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                • Joeyzagz
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                  #178
                  Hopkins does well against Southpaws, as we saw with Tarver and Winky, but Calzaghe was a different animal altogether.

                  He couldnt bully Joe
                  He couldnt confuse Joe
                  And he couldnt cheat against Joe

                  If Bernard cant, bully, cheat or confuse his opponent, he begins to flop around like a lost puppy. Joe beats him 10 times out of 10.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                    Hopkins does well against Southpaws, as we saw with Tarver and Winky, but Calzaghe was a different animal altogether.

                    He couldnt bully Joe
                    He couldnt confuse Joe
                    And he couldnt cheat against Joe

                    If Bernard cant, bully, cheat or confuse his opponent, he begins to flop around like a lost puppy. Joe beats him 10 times out of 10.
                    Not to mention Tarver had just come down from the 218 lbs he weighed for Rocky Balboa and Winky was a career 154 lber dragged up to 170, who was cut early with a headbutt and Bernard clinched hundreds of times in the fight.

                    I'd give Hopkins a couple wins out of 10 though.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      Hopkins does well against Southpaws, as we saw with Tarver and Winky, but Calzaghe was a different animal altogether.

                      He couldnt bully Joe
                      He couldnt confuse Joe
                      And he couldnt cheat against Joe

                      If Bernard cant, bully, cheat or confuse his opponent, he begins to flop around like a lost puppy. Joe beats him 10 times out of 10.
                      he could do whatever he dman well pleased against joe, he did against waaaay better fighters so calzaghe would be no different.

                      the lost puppy thing is just ignorant. very few fighters in the history of boxing were more well rounded and able to adapt then hopkins. in his prime he could fight at any distance or pace, he could lead or counter come forward or move around the ring. he could box or fight, he had speed and power, he had everything. only late in his career did he lose some of these dimensions.

                      joe if anything is the one who starts swinging wild like a journeyman when he cant outbox someone.

                      hopkins shuts him out then puts him to sleep 12 times out of 10 (no typo)

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