Miguel Cotto Made Floyd Mayweather Retire, Says Arum

[jk4real]

arum is not taking back what he said. he doesnt say floyd isnt a skilled boxer. he just says hes a coward and that a plain and basic common sense fact!!

Again why is that fact??? A fact is if something is written down. Fact is that he didn't fight Marga. Fact is also that Marga didn't fought Shane Mosley, he ain't fought DLH. He also ain't fought Floyd. He ain't fought Andre Berto. He ain't fought Quintana. So is Marga a coward???

I don't know his passport but does coward stand by gender??? Maybe some1 has his passport

For me it always is mind boggling if a boxer who steps into the ring against other trained athletes (who train to take your head off) is called coward. Why should somebody be afraid of Margarito. Does he punch like a young Tyson? Do I miss some1. Did he just won the Golden Gloves competition and outboxed every1 Whitaker style. Sometimes I feel there are two Margaritos. The one that I know... and the one that others (in most cases Mexicans) know??? Just asking... could be that we ain't talking about the same boxer. Just asking

[Ray*]

Your first posts was funny but this now again... 8 Million$$ BS... you see Ray... you can talk what you want some1 comes around like nothing happened and still stated the wrong facts daaaaaaaaaaaaamn... exactly what I talked about

LOL it just goes over there heads, God its nice to have a brain that works.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

The only thing I dont understand is the fact that pbf won a split decision over odlh.He didnt win by a huge margin and pbf thinks he deserves 50M.....
He didnt beat oscar up he won a close split decision.I dont get this.Why does pbf deserve 50m for a rematch?He deserves more because he won the fight but 50m?He clearly bid himself out on purpose......I think he got paid 10m for the first if I'm not wrong.Okay take 15m and be happy.He was offered 35m ,what the ****?Anyways he clearly bid himself out end of story.............

you sound very................ misinformed is the politest word! I will be laughed at for responding to you!

[supremelygifted]

There is a difference with that though. PBF let De la Hoya have everything catered to him their 1st fight which PBF won. De la Hoya made money 2 ways that night as the fighter and promoter. PBF won the fight so why shouldn't **** be on a more level playing field this time around. It seems to that is what PBF was asking for and De la Hoya told him no. So fight off, I for one am not sad that **** is not happening.

PBF knows if he fights Cotto it will be for anything between 15-25 million. To me it is starting to seem like damn near everything in boxing is scripted except what happens in the ring. For example on 24/7 with PBF and Hatton. PBF said that he told Ellerbe to make the ****ing fight happen after the **** Hatton said. But in a interview later after the fight I believe somebody from Hatton's camp said they were negoiating PBF vs. Hatton for 3 years. Boxing is starting to have a fake ass story line with the only thing being real is the fight in the ring without corrupt judges.

Jesus ****in Christ! If you want drama watch days of our lives or american idol or some ****. Floyd had suggested fighting Hatton a couple of years ago when Floyd first hit 140 or was thinking of going to 140. The Hatton people said no not yet. There is no damn story line! Fighters put feelers out there all the damn time. Floyd will not fight for less than 20 million period! I actually think that is lower that he'd expect to come out of retirement for. If you listen he already said after the Hatton fight he was taking the rest of 08 off. So don't be surprised if he comes back in late 09. It's not some scripted plot. The only thing that determines the plots and scripts these days in boxing is money my friend.

[supremelygifted]

Although nobody cared much to see this rematch, who looks like the ******* right now? Floyd let his ego get in the way of him making $35mil+ dollars. That is about 10mil more than he made for his 1st fight with Oscar. Oscar will make at least another 20mil by the end of the year, while Floyd sits on the sidelines kicking himself in the ass about all the money he let pass up. Whatever happened to "if it makes dollars, it makes sense"

Spoken like a person with no money and no sense of self-worth. Think about it for a minute. You already have over let's say 50 million dollars. What is another 35 million if it goes against your principles and perceptions of right and wrong? He felt like he should get the big end . He gave up the big end the first time out didn't he? Floyd knows he can make 35 million on one fight if he wanted to. He doesn't need Oscar for that. Floyd knows what Oscar stands to make and he knew that the 50 million he was asking was nothing compared to what Oscar would've stood to make. I'm willing to bet you this...Floyd also knows that there is NO other fighter Oscar can fight that would bring in the money the two of them brought in. Look at Oscar scrambling now to find a match. He's so desperate he's considering fighting Pacquaiao (much smaller guy) or Hatton(much smaller and an associate). Who do you think is more affected by the decision to retire? Oscar don't want to fight Cotto or Margorito if he did he would first come out and say so " I want the winner of this fight!" and not consider a damn lightweight or jr welterweight. He's looking at the most dollar and least risk factor. Floyd is sitting real cool right about now. His name is still being called in boxing circles and still getting tons of posts on forums like this. Sometimes it takes money to make money (35 million)

[MANGLER]

Cotto and Tony are both dangerous and losable fights for PBF that he might not win easily, but I'd favor him against either guy. He's got a big ego, and the criticism will get to him eventually. He knows if he comes back and beats the winner of this fight decisively, all his haters have to shut the **** up for good. He won't be able to resist tellin everybody he told them so. I think he's been plannin this anyway, expectin Cotto to win, and if he does then he'll come back. But if Tony wins, I don't think he'll be so anxious.

[animal22]

im not saying he needs to go to every fight and get into a gatti/ward type war out there. what im saying is that i wish that he would have been so much more aggressive with his approach in the ring instead of always being so careful picking his spots trying his best not to get touched. when you have the type of talent that he has there is no reason why he cant unleash a lot more damage being aggressive and still avoid getting hit for the most part. he doesnt have that bad a chin theres no reason to think that if did on occassion get clocked hard that he wouldnt be able to take it. with his speed he would have been quite a scene to watch seeing him attack attac attack and still avoid getting by his opponents. like a form of art but instead he chose a lets all go watch paint dry approach. combined that with the courage of fighting the best out there he would easily been one of the best most popular fan-favorite fighters of all-time... but instead he chose a different route...

Why would you take punches when you dont have to? Thats just plain dumb. Horrible post.

[supremelygifted]

Arum needs to ease off of Floyd's nuts. He is sucking them a little too hard... He is just disgruntled because he is loosing out on a big payday. After Floyd disposed of Gatti he wanted Hatton or Cotto as his next opponent and they both turned down the fight at the time because they weren't "ready". Look that **** up.... it's true. I hate when people turn down fights and then 3 or 4 years later they act like they had their sights set on someone the whole time. Hatton got his cuz he called out Floyd plain and simple. Atleast Hatton wasn't scared to lose. But Cotto is a straight *****. You never heard him call out the great Floyd Mayweather. Always "left" it to the promoters to "determine" when he would be "ready". HE could have called him out but never did... plain and simple. Floyd is on the level where the risk to reward ratio is heavily against him.. why fight margarito for 8 million or cotto for 10 or 15 when he can fight DLH for 35 million and whip him again. Its common sense! If you need to be mad at someone be mad at the powers that be (Arum, DLH, Don King). Why is it that Oscar always gets whatever fight he wants? Cuz he offers the most lucrative deals.. So he BUYS the sport of boxing and the other fighters SELLOUT. I wish Floyd would have never fought his ***** ass in the first place. That fight kinda spoiled him and he figures why fight for less. So why in the hell should he fly coach when he has grown accustomed to 1st class. F that. HE is doing the right thing... He'll be back when the $ is right. And it isn't HIS fault these boxers don't have the marketability that he has. Mayweather does everything better than Cotto... EVERYTHING. plain and simple. Better boxer period. And he would knock his ass out... I said it against Hatton when everybody said he couldn't knock him out cuz he was too tough. HE has the best punching percentage in the sport and hits that chin with sniper preciseness. Cotto fans enjoy your champ and learn to move on. Mayweather is retired... let him be. and if he does come back we'll be lucky to be able to watch him grace the ring one more time... peace out

If ever there was post that was riddled with truth and plain and basic common sense, this is it! Anyone and I mean anyone that thinks Floyd is less of a champion and not the P4P (pre-retirement) because he doesn't listens to the ****** fans that think the best P4P is the guy he walks in face first slugging is just a casual fan. I don't give a **** how many posts you've made on here and how witty your remarks and criticisms are you're a casual ****ing fan at best! Our sport is called boxing! Not fighting! In fact, I really don't know why they call a boxing match a damn fight. I've never seen a real fight that looked like or ended up like a boxing match. That being said, Cotto fans and Margorito fans ( I like Margorito by the way) think that you're fighters are such great warriors and they are. I promise you they fight the way they fight because that is all they know. If they could avoid getting getting hit and see punches coming and react to them they would. If they could land 5 or 6 punches to 1 they would. In fact, if ANY one of us could do that we would. Only a fool wouldn't . So that being said, if they had the talents that Floyd has they would use them ! So would you and anyone else.

[BRAVE-HEART]

If ever there was post that was riddled with truth and plain and basic common sense, this is it! Anyone and I mean anyone that thinks Floyd is less of a champion and not the P4P (pre-retirement) because he doesn't listens to the ****** fans that think the best P4P is the guy he walks in face first slugging is just a casual fan. I don't give a **** how many posts you've made on here and how witty your remarks and criticisms are you're a casual ****ing fan at best! Our sport is called boxing! Not fighting! In fact, I really don't know why they call a boxing match a damn fight. I've never seen a real fight that looked like or ended up like a boxing match. That being said, Cotto fans and Margorito fans ( I like Margorito by the way) think that you're fighters are such great warriors and they are. I promise you they fight the way they fight because that is all they know. If they could avoid getting getting hit and see punches coming and react to them they would. If they could land 5 or 6 punches to 1 they would. In fact, if ANY one of us could do that we would. Only a fool wouldn't . So that being said, if they had the talents that Floyd has they would use them ! So would you and anyone else.

You dont know **** all mate, Of cource boxing is fighting. Back in the day look at the gloves they used and how battered they got. Its a fight with gloves and a set of rules which over the years have changed for health and political reasons. Boxing has become so scripted and dramatised as mentioned earlier. Theres always alot of talking, alot of promotion alot of drama, its turning into a soap. In the old days it was a case of fighting who you were given , the old matches where KO only wins. How can you say thats not fighting. You know nothing and you speak alot of ****

[Kilrain]

Arum is putting on the fight of the year between the two toughest welterweights in the world and Floyd's having scuffles with 50 Cent (no ****, did anyone hear this? 50 Cent radio interview on youtube, cant be assed finding the link but its there). This is classic Bobfather. He's goading Money May, and it might just be the right tactic. Arums rhetoric has taken the shine off of Floyds blaze of glory boxing exit when he trashed Hatton, and he wont like that one iota