Mistakes people make in "scoring" fights

[Hitman932]

Wouldn't you say though that Lederman is much better than most people think he is? I mean it's popular for internet fanboys who watched eleven pro fights to talk about how badly Lederman scores. He does better than the consensus here a hundred times out of a hundred, even if he has his flaws.

ive said those exact words several time, i even started a thread saying harold was a good jusge, boy did i get **** on.

[The Gambler1981]

ive said those exact words several time, i even started a thread saying harold was a good jusge, boy did i get **** on.

Harold is not that bad, but like anyone that watches that many fights you get some crazy results. Also with boxing scoring being highly subjective it is easy to see 2 or 3 rounds different. I always like when people make it a big deal about a 8-4 score instead of 7-5, i mean come on that is 1 round different.

[IMDAZED]

Harold is not that bad, but like anyone that watches that many fights you get some crazy results. Also with boxing scoring being highlt subjective it is easy to see 2 or 3 rounds different. I always like when people make it a big deal about a 8-4 score instead of 7-5, i mean come on that is 1 round different.

Unfortunately, the beef usually comes in because 7-5 can easily become 6-6. Or 8-4 the other way.

Gotta love boxing!

[The Gambler1981]

Unfortunately, the beef usually comes in because 7-5 can easily become 6-6. Or 8-4 the other way.

Gotta love boxing!

Or 9 to 3, boxing judging is very subjective.

[keepthemhandsup]

i usakky score on who can land more cleaner hits

[DiegoFuego]

I think Harold is one of the worst judges in the game to be honest. Look how he scored Mayweather-Hatton for example. It's gotten to where I'll score a round and tell everyone in the room to watch because Harold is going to score it the other way and say the guy was coming forward. Never fails

[kayjay]

I think Harold is one of the worst judges in the game to be honest. Look how he scored Mayweather-Hatton for example. It's gotten to where I'll score a round and tell everyone in the room to watch because Harold is going to score it the other way and say the guy was coming forward. Never fails

I was at the casino last month watching Cotto-Marg, and someone yelled from the other side of the crowd, "who won that round?" I said "Cotto." The whole crowd laughed at me just before Harold's score came up for Cotto.

The moral? Harold and I > the masses

[Zerwas1]

Fighting like a warrior is the only judging indicator mexicans have

[DiegoFuego]

I was at the casino last month watching Cotto-Marg, and someone yelled from the other side of the crowd, "who won that round?" I said "Cotto." The whole crowd laughed at me just before Harold's score came up for Cotto.

The moral? Harold and I > the masses

It's usually not a good sign if you're agreeing with Harold. Plus Harold contradicted even himself in that fight by giving Cotto rounds. If Harold was consistent, Cotto shouldn't have won a single round in that fight.

Rare good call by Harold

[Easy-E]

I use the quotes in 'scoring' because what most people do is merely fabricate a number to lend an appearance of justification for their sporting allegiance. Here is a list of common errors, which I'll elaborate with illustrations later.

1. Scoring with respect to style expectation: it's irrelevant to say "so and so is a counterpuncher" to justify inactivity, or "fighter A fought fight fighter B's fight;" you have to score what actually takes place, without reference to what you expected.

2. Watching one fighter only: sometimes an ineffective fighter or round is said to be "setting up" something for later; this makes it clear the poster is only watching one guy, not the whole fight.

3. Scoring missed punches negatively: Ill quote one of my nemeses, Fuego (who scores well, though he's still a ****): "If you make someone miss without throwing back, it doesn't count for anything." Fuego is right about this, which is one reason he usually gets it right.

4. Giving style points: this error is indicated by the frequent phrase "fighter b showed better skills." A fight is not a skills demonstration; you can score ice skating or gymnastics that way, but not boxing.

5. Counting partially-landed punches as a misses

6. Emphasizing punch percentage: sometimes you throw a punch or two to land a different one. It doesn't matter if the first two miss. Total punches landed or partially landed is more important than percentage landed

Not necessarily true.
Marques of Queenberry rules explicitly state that 1/4th of judging a round is based on defense.