Mistakes people make in "scoring" fights

[Liaison]

Scoring a fight off a live stream is a no-no for me…

[kayjay]

Scoring a fight off a live stream is a no-no for me…

For the most part people should watch as fans, not as judges (these two are incompatible). In fact they do watch as fans, so they shouldn't pretend to be judges. Later it's possible to watch the video and confirm the scoring.

[MayweatherJr.]

i just ask myself...... who would i rather not be in that round? ...... then i score 10-9 for the other guy.

if damage was equal and no one really got hurt...... i ask myself...... who was trying to hurt the other guy more? ...... then i score 10-9 for him.

forget looking pretty. forget misses. forget punch connect ratio.

boxing is to hurt the other guy more than he hurts you.

Ahaha! Are you referring to Pacquiao? LOL!

[ElGranLuchador]

when im scoring fights i imagine a health bar above each guys head
jabs take a little of the health bar and solid punches take a lot, at the end i give the round to who has more health left in his bar
if the damage is so bad that one guy got his health bar completely depleted i score the round 10/8 even if there was no knockdown of course that almost never happens

btw i heard judges score on ring generalship like how one guy managed to stay i n the middle of the ring or how he forced his opponent to fight his fight thats bs

[kayjay]

when im scoring fights i imagine a health bar above each guys head
jabs take a little of the health bar and solid punches take a lot, at the end i give the round to who has more health left in his bar
if the damage is so bad that one guy got his health bar completely depleted i score the round 10/8 even if there was no knockdown of course that almost never happens

btw i heard judges score on ring generalship like how one guy managed to stay i n the middle of the ring or how he forced his opponent to fight his fight thats bs

"Ring generalship" is so grossly ambiguous it should almost never be mentioned.

And the "fight his fight" nonsense is a sure sign that the person talking should be completely ignored. That's mistake #1 on my list: scoring with respect to expectation. You can't watch the fight with any sense of who wants to fight in what style. You don't know their gameplans, and if you did you couldn't use that knowledge to affect your judgment.

[Haglerwins]

"Ring generalship" is so grossly ambiguous it should almost never be mentioned.

I definitely agree with this. Judges can't seem to make up their minds either on what they consider ring generalship. Seems to depend on who is fighting on a particular Saturday if you ask me. You'll have bouts where the guy controlling the fight is going backwards, but doesn't get the close dec, and vice versa.

[Left Hook Tua]

Ahaha! Are you referring to Pacquiao? LOL!

not everything has to do with floyd or pacquiao , mr. floyd.

[DiegoFuego]

The biggest misconception I hate about scoring is that so many judges favor the guy coming forward. Harold Lederman is as guilty of this as any judge I've ever seen. If you're coming forward and walking into jabs, Harold will STILL give you the round. I mean he flat out sucks in that regard. Some guys' styles are predicated on moving backwards and nailing you. And that's ring generalship too if they hit you from a spot where you can't hit them.

Clean punching is the criteria for scoring a fight and everything else only comes into play when it isn't clear who landed more/harder punches each round.

As for 10-8 rounds, I never give them without a knockdown though I considered doing so for a while, but it becomes way too subjective (and scoring is already too subjective as it is) as to when a guy deserves 8 or 9.

[kayjay]

The biggest misconception I hate about scoring is that so many judges favor the guy coming forward. Harold Lederman is as guilty of this as any judge I've ever seen. If you're coming forward and walking into jabs, Harold will STILL give you the round. I mean he flat out sucks in that regard. Some guys' styles are predicated on moving backwards and nailing you. And that's ring generalship too if they hit you from a spot where you can't hit them.

Clean punching is the criteria for scoring a fight and everything else only comes into play when it isn't clear who landed more/harder punches each round.

As for 10-8 rounds, I never give them without a knockdown though I considered doing so for a while, but it becomes way too subjective (and scoring is already too subjective as it is) as to when a guy deserves 8 or 9.

Wouldn't you say though that Lederman is much better than most people think he is? I mean it's popular for internet fanboys who watched eleven pro fights to talk about how badly Lederman scores. He does better than the consensus here a hundred times out of a hundred, even if he has his flaws.

[The Gambler1981]

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