Mistakes people make in "scoring" fights

[kayjay]

SRL fought Durans fight and did a really good job. Duran beat SRL, that I know. Really, what if SRL would have boxed?? The way he was suppose?? Duran disrespected SRL's wife and ****. That was Duran's plan. So yeah, I'm talking about number 1.

That's not a good example, because Leonard lost and no one disputes the decision.

Recent fights in which the winner fought the loser's fight and beat him at it:

Mayweather-Hatton; Chagaev-Skelton; Calzaghe-Hopkins

[kayjay]

KD doesn't win the round. That shouldn't be debatable.

I don't know. The 9-9 round with a KD doesn't show up on a judge's scorecard.

Edit: I have no problem with the idea that you lose the round by getting knocked down.

[Scott9945]

I don't know. The 9-9 round with a KD doesn't show up on a judge's scorecard.

Edit: I have no problem with the idea that you lose the round by getting knocked down.

There can never be a round where one of the fighters doesn't get 10 points, unless the referee deducts a point from one of the boxers. It doesn't matter if they knock each other down three times. That's why it is called the "10 point must" system of scoring.

[warp1432]

3. Scoring missed punches negatively: Ill quote one of my nemeses, Fuego (who scores well, though he's still a ****): "If you make someone miss without throwing back, it doesn't count for anything." Fuego is right about this, which is one reason he usually gets it right.

I think this can be justified in certain cases. Like when a fighter is a lot more active then another fighter, but misses most of his shots and then the fighter lands some good blows inbtween then, but they aren't counters.

Round 2 of Hopkins-Wright is an example. Mostly everyone scores this round to Wright, but I think Hopkins won it because a lot of Wright's shots were plain out missing (not glancing) and Hopkins landed some good shots in the round. Round 3 is more or less of the same round, but I scored it for Wright because he actually managed to land a good 1-2 on Hopkins and some other decent blows, but a lot of people score that round for Hopkins because of the flurry Hopkins does.


Also I think the glacing partial blows should never equal up to more clean punches. Like Pacquiao-Marquez round 1 in their second fight. Pacquiao was landing a lot of glancing blows and Marquez was landing some of those to, but then Marquez lands a big right hand that I thought won him the round.

[The Gambler1981]

If you score a around with a knockdown 10-9 that means normally you would have had it a 10-10 round then you take a point away for the knockdown. This is like a flash knockdown in a round to a fighter who is doing the better work. It is not common but if you felt it was an even round and only the knockout was the difference it should only be a 10-9 round usually in this case the knock down would not be very impressive and not actually do much damage.

Also if a fighter is getting knocked about the ring and staggering around like a drunk sailor w/o going down like round 8 in Lacy-Mendoza a 1 point difference is not fitting to me.

In any fight you score you should never have more then 1 round 10-10 because if you can not find anything to pick between fighters you do not need to be scoring fights.

Scoring fights is an art and not a science though and is highly based on preception. Scoring a fight on TV is nowhere near scoring a fight live in person in the judges seats so your really need to not regard any TV graphics (punch stats, others scorecard or instant replays) or what the commentators isay if you really want your scorecard to have any validity

[2quick2slick]

Sometimes you won't get the best fight result by scoring it yourself, especially in a razor thin close matchup. That's why they have 3 ring judges sitting in 3 different angles.

[boxaholic]

If the round is close I always give it to the agressor more than the counterpuncher.

[warp1432]

If the round is close I always give it to the agressor more than the counterpuncher.

See this is the problem with most fights. You need to see who scored the most effective clean punches (more or less) and if it's that close where you can't decide a winner, score it even.

You don't give a team a win in hockey if it's tied at 0, but they have more shots on goal. It's called even.

[P4PKING_2008]

Copying Ledermans card.

[kayjay]

Copying Ledermans card.

lol...........

But honestly people on here would usually do better to watch without pretending to score. If I'm emotionally involved in a fight I don't typically keep score. There's a difference between being a fan and a judge. And it's a problem with boxing fans that they mistake themselves too often for judges.