"Hopkins Will Stop, Outclass Pavlik," Says Enzo Calzaghe

[Chase8400]

He did have one of the best "game faces" before the fight:

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Damn right. Even in the stare down, he looked all mad and stuff. LOL. I knew he was being set up to get pummelled and sure enough that look was wiped straight off of his face. Funny thing is that he said that Pavlik was not too special. I guess that makes Lockett an absolute pile of human excrement in terms of being special.

[KabukiJoe]

Mate I would love to agree with you but I will say Kessler had his moments and put up a brave fight but was never in control of it at all...JC especially came good in the later rounds like he usually does...Kessler didint choke at all but he kept his head above water with out holding, headbutting and blocking like old mary popkins...he tried to fight and he learnt from it.

...right now I'm thinking, "did he kinda/sorta say the same as me?"...the first half of the fight Kessler was hitting Calzaghe like he'd never been hit before...you could see the confidence "draining from him" in the corner between rounds...Kessler was getting it done, then all of a sudden he stopped throwing punches...just stopped...I was like "WTF?!?!?"...it had nothing to do with Calzaghe because if Kessler would have kept up with what he was doing, Calzaghe would have lost...look at it this way, if Kessler hitting Calzaghe made Calzaghe stop throwing punches AND then all of a sudden Kessler stops throwing punches, what's going to happen?...well, when Calzaghe stops getting hit, his chest puffs out and he starts "slapping"...this is not rocket science...watch the fight, and it was about the 6th or 7th when Kessler just stopped throwing punches...which in turn caused Calzaghe to get his confidence back and start "slapping the ****" out of Kessler...the first half of the fight Kessler made Calzaghe "whimper" in his corner...open your eyes and look at it again...


Kabuki Joe

[WESS]

i dont know what it is right , but when ever i read your posts its like your trying to make everyone happy. Like you have read what everyone says then agree with different bits.

gary locket, worste boxer in history , gets schooled and knocked out by pavlick then says that hes nothing special and that joe could take him ?

Its nea a ****ing arm wrestle, how could he possible know if joe could take him. You see how joe is considering a fight with pavlick after jones. Well i bet you if he beats jones ( which he wont ) and pavlick beats hopkins convincingly then he will not fight pavlick. Joe is not a warrior like jones, AA, margarito, cotto etc he cares to much for his undefeated record now

man does the TRUTH hurt! ouch......

[FUC_U_PAYME]

Enzo's predictions are total crap.

[WESS]

Wow. The possibility of Hopkins beating Pavlik really is not getting much play around here is it? Now, I agree that Pavlik should beat Hopkins based on his workrate, but I promise you, it is by no means certain. We are talking about a very green, tactically limited boxer up against one of the best technical boxers of recent years, and one of the most experienced. Remember, Hopkins pushed Calzaghe who is P4P #2 in the world extremely hard, what makes you think he can't do the same to Kelly Pavlik? Of course, Joe being British and not being a one dimensional slugger means he can't really be P4P #2 now doesn't it, and Hopkins must have turned **** if he lost to the overrated euro bum, mustn't he?

Calzaghe Doesn't hit as hard as PAVLIK, that's why. He pushed calzaghe around and MADE him fight at his pace.... WHY? because Calzaghe didn't hit him hard enough to do otherwise.. NOW saying that, PAVLIK will. I don't think he will KO HOP, but will force him to fight MORE than CALZAGHE EVER made him do. PAV will hit him and hit him hard to win the fight. Like Joe, PAV will win by outworking him and landing more punches. ONLY thing is PAV will force HOP to fight, UNLIKE JOE could do, Joe dose NOT make anyone do anything. He just throws more punches to win rounds.

IMO if HOP would have thrown just a TAD bit more, he could HAVE easily won the fight, BUT due that he is 43 he could not. So Joe pulled the WIN out of his ass....he didn't BEAT old man HOP, just landed more shots.

I'm proud of Joe, He's a REAL WARRIOR.........................................

[abadger]

i dont know what it is right , but when ever i read your posts its like your trying to make everyone happy. Like you have read what everyone says then agree with different bits.

Thanks, I'm going to take that as a compliment.

gary locket, worste boxer in history , gets schooled and knocked out by pavlick then says that hes nothing special and that joe could take him ?

Its nea a ****ing arm wrestle, how could he possible know if joe could take him. You see how joe is considering a fight with pavlick after jones. Well i bet you if he beats jones ( which he wont ) and pavlick beats hopkins convincingly then he will not fight pavlick. Joe is not a warrior like jones, AA, margarito, cotto etc he cares to much for his undefeated record now

Well, I imagine it has to do with the fact he probably spars Joe quite often and feels he is the better boxer. The 'nothing special' comment probably refers to the fact that Pavlik usually wins, basically, by being bigger and tougher than his opponent, not by being more skilful. Exactly like he did over Lockett.

As for whether Calzaghe fights Pavlik, well, I don't know the future, I hope he does. My own view is that there is no reason to avoid him since on paper Joe beats him easily, but perhaps Joe at almost 37 feels he is too old to take on young guys like Pavlik. I really don't know.

Anyway, lets wait and see until after the Roy and Hopkins fights and see what happens.

[abadger]

Calzaghe Doesn't hit as hard as PAVLIK, that's why. He pushed calzaghe around and MADE him fight at his pace.... WHY? because Calzaghe didn't hit him hard enough to do otherwise.. NOW saying that, PAVLIK will. I don't think he will KO HOP, but will force him to fight MORE than CALZAGHE EVER made him do. PAV will hit him and hit him hard to win the fight. Like Joe, PAV will win by outworking him and landing more punches. ONLY thing is PAV will force HOP to fight, UNLIKE JOE could do, Joe dose NOT make anyone do anything. He just throws more punches to win rounds.

IMO if HOP would have thrown just a TAD bit more, he could HAVE easily won the fight, BUT due that he is 43 he could not. So Joe pulled the WIN out of his ass....he didn't BEAT old man HOP, just landed more shots.

I'm proud of Joe, He's a REAL WARRIOR.........................................

Well, that was a reasonable analysis of how the fight could go. If Pavlik carries his power up (remember he normally boxes at MW not LHW) then he will be hitting Hopkins harder than Joe does.

However, I think you overlook the fact that a counterpunching spoiler is a bad style matchup for Pavlik, who with his one dimensional gameplan (a stereotype, but true) will present Hopkins with only one puzzle to solve and few punches to take away. It was hard for Calzaghe, a much faster, varied puncher than Pavlik to hit Hopkins at times, and he is one of the few fighters who can legitimately claim to match Hopkins in the experience department. How easy do you think Pavlik, with his left jab right hand style is going to find it to catch Hopkins consistently? Not very is my bet.

[WESS]

Well, that was a reasonable analysis of how the fight could go. If Pavlik carries his power up (remember he normally boxes at MW not LHW) then he will be hitting Hopkins harder than Joe does.

However, I think you overlook the fact that a counterpunching spoiler is a bad style matchup for Pavlik, who with his one dimensional gameplan (a stereotype, but true) will present Hopkins with only one puzzle to solve and few punches to take away. It was hard for Calzaghe, a much faster, varied puncher than Pavlik to hit Hopkins at times, and he is one of the few fighters who can legitimately claim to match Hopkins in the experience department. How easy do you think Pavlik, with his left jab right hand style is going to find it to catch Hopkins consistently? Not very is my bet.

Well I think the over load of hard punches will force HOP to fight more and fight uncomfortably. BUT let me ask you how long has HOP been a LHW? You were saying PAV normally fights at MW, isn't that where HOP spent 90% of his career? SO naturally, size wise they are even. I think PAV punches more like a LHW. I cant back that because he has never fought at that weight. only time will tell.

BUT I really think PAV's power will be the factor of the fight. He will be easily figured out, but i don't think HOP will expect the "HARD" punches that will come in bunches. Like I said I WOULD be shocked to death to see HOP KO'ed.

But I think it will be a good test and I AM really curios as to what ENZO's ******ed ass is going to say if PAV wins and WINS convincingly (UD,KO,TKO), unlike calzight did (SPLIT).

lol You have nothing in return to my sarcastic "WARRIOR" statement about joe??? lol I figured I would get something from ya...... come on, don't let me down!!!!!!!

[MELLY-MEL...]

Pavlik's jab will be a big factor in him winning the fight if he can use it well. it will he offset alot of bhops counters if he can land it in double,and triple. plus if he can step to the side and use the uppercut as bhop comes in head down he may be effective.

[Steel Town USA]

calzaghe is probably my favorite fighter right now but i have to admit i think he would have a big problem with pavlik. between kessler and pavlik, i would give the power edge to pavlik by a fairly decent margin. accompanying that power is a high punch output, something kessler doesn't match. because of that, i think that calzaghe would not be able to take too many shots from pavlik. enzo definitely is a bit worried about pavlik.

Whoa, a rational Calzaghe fan -- I didn't think they existed. DRY LAND IS NOT A MYTH!!!

Seriously though, why is it that most Pavlik fans can see the monumental challenge that Joe presents, but Calzaghe fans can't look at the flip side? They honestly believe that Joe would pitch a shutout against Kelly, or at most lose 1-2 rounds. I can't wait for that fight to be made, provided Enzo doesn't decide it's not worth the risk to his son's 0.