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  • BHONN
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    #11
    Originally posted by the_godslayer
    Hattons style will wear Pacman down by the middle rounds, he will be unused to getting hit with the power Hatton throws those hooks to the body, ask castillo!!
    yeah thats what i mean..
    seriously though i really cant get some poster here that saying hatton is an easy fight for pacman...
    the guy is a beast in his division never been lost in his entire life in there..

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    • them_apples
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      #12
      Yes there is a chance of Pacman getting bullied and hit with a body shot, but you also have to look at the other side of the fence.

      Hatton doesn't block his head and he always comes forward, considering Pacquiao mainly throws hard straights with the odd right hook, chances are Hatton will get cut and bruised up from running into them with a possible KO. Pacquiao doesn't have a jab, he has a straight right and a straight left, the Diaz fight shows this.

      No, Hatton has not lost at 140, but can you honestly see Pacquiao losing? I can't

      Hatton isn't any bigger than Pacquiao, he used to be, but Pacquiao is putting on muscle he's 5'6 1/2 (taller than Hatton by 1/2) and has the edge in speed, power is debatable, although we all know speed = KO's sometimes.

      I'm not saying this is definite, I could see Pacquiao getting nailed with a body shot and yelping, but we'll see.

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      • Silencers
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        #13
        Originally posted by bhonn
        my bad I don't know much about it that Marg lost via KO or tko... sorry for that.

        I like Pac to clean the 135 division first before moving to 140 or fighting DLH. I think Guzman is the only threat around that division for PAC cause his slick but I saw his last fight against Soto that wasn't an Entertaining fight and It will be bad for Pac cause again people will criticize him just like MAB vs PAC 2...
        Guzman's style would give Pacquiao a lot of problems and I as well would like to see Pacquiao try and clean up 135, he would get a lot of credit from the hardcore boxing fans for fighting Guzman.

        Originally posted by them_apples
        Yes there is a chance of Pacman getting bullied and hit with a body shot, but you also have to look at the other side of the fence.

        Hatton doesn't block his head and he always comes forward, considering Pacquiao mainly throws hard straights with the odd right hook, chances are Hatton will get cut and bruised up from running into them with a possible KO. Pacquiao doesn't have a jab, he has a straight right and a straight left, the Diaz fight shows this.

        No, Hatton has not lost at 140, but can you honestly see Pacquiao losing? I can't

        Hatton isn't any bigger than Pacquiao, he used to be, but Pacquiao is putting on muscle he's 5'6 1/2 (taller than Hatton by 1/2) and has the edge in speed, power is debatable, although we all know speed = KO's sometimes.

        I'm not saying this is definite, I could see Pacquiao getting nailed with a body shot and yelping, but we'll see.
        Pacquiao does have a jab, he doesn't use it to hurt, he uses it set up his other shots.

        And yes, I can see Pacquiao losing.

        Hatton has been fighting at 140 pounds or above his whole career while Pacquiao just moved up to 135, adding another 5 pounds of muscle could slow Pacquiao down and while Hatton doesn't have the best chin who knows how Pacquiao's punches would affect a natural 140 pounder.
        Last edited by Silencers; 07-22-2008, 03:45 AM.

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        • BHONN
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          #14
          Originally posted by Silencers
          Guzman's style would give Pacquiao a lot of problems and I as well like to see Pacquiao try and clean up 135, he would get a lot of credit from the hardcore boxing fans for fighting Guzman.



          Pacquiao does have a jab, he doesn't use it to hurt, he uses it set up his other shots.

          And yes, I can see Pacquiao losing.

          Hatton has been fighting at 140 pounds or above his whole career while Pacquiao just moved up to 135, adding another 5 pounds of muscle could slow Pacquiao down and while Hatton doesn't have the best chin who knows how Pacquiao's punches would affect a natural 140 pounder.


          Yeah I think Guzman can give Pacquiao a problem because of his skills but I dont see Pac loosing it. Pac will win this one..


          and about Hatton I dont know how Pac will handle him his stronger and bigger
          but thats one hell of a fight we know pac wont back down as long as his opponent got two hands

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            #15
            Originally posted by bhonn
            Yeah I think Guzman can give Pacquiao a problem because of his skills but I dont see Pac loosing it. Pac will win this one..


            and about Hatton I dont know how Pac will handle him his stronger and bigger
            but thats one hell of a fight we know pac wont back down as long as his opponent got two hands
            The way for Pacquiao to beat Hatton is speed, if he is able to carry up his speed with him he would have a chance at beating Hatton because Hatton can get caught blind on the way in.

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            • BHONN
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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers
              The way for Pacquiao to beat Hatton is speed, if he is able to carry up his speed with him he would have a chance at beating Hatton because Hatton can get caught blind on the way in.
              that IF he will carry his speed.. adding another 5lbs i dunno if he can maintain it...
              Last edited by BHONN; 07-22-2008, 03:56 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by bhonn
                that IF he will carry his speed.. adding another 5lbs i dunno if he can maintain it...
                That's true, we'll just have to wait and see.

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                • BHONN
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  That's true, we'll just have to wait and see.
                  But who knows man everytime pac comes up he still maintain his speed...
                  lets just wait and see

                  WAR PACMAN

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                  • the_godslayer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    The way for Pacquiao to beat Hatton is speed, if he is able to carry up his speed with him he would have a chance at beating Hatton because Hatton can get caught blind on the way in.
                    Good point although i would hope that Hatton is not ****** enough to not watch replays of his last couple of fights, its ALWAYS the left hook as he is about to throw his own. Billy Graham needs to address that with him in the gym, i know you cant teach an old dog new tricks but if Hatton wants to stay in the fight in case it goes the distance and not take too much punishment he needs to be able to look at his gameplan during fights!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by the_godslayer
                      Good point although i would hope that Hatton is not ****** enough to not watch replays of his last couple of fights, its ALWAYS the left hook as he is about to throw his own. Billy Graham needs to address that with him in the gym, i know you cant teach an old dog new tricks but if Hatton wants to stay in the fight in case it goes the distance and not take too much punishment he needs to be able to look at his gameplan during fights!!
                      No doubt that leaping left hook is a horrible punch because he drops his right hand when he throws if leaving himself wide open to a counter left which is Pacquiao's main weapon, if Graham can't point this out, then maybe it is a good idea to switch trainers since he's considering it.

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