Joe Calzaghe should be arrested for beating up pensioners

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  • HomeBoys
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    #71
    This Terrible guy reminds me of the kid who got bullied at school and never fitted in.

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    • abadger
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      #72
      Originally posted by HomeBoys
      This Terrible guy reminds me of the kid who got bullied at school and never fitted in.
      He'll kick your ass now though.

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      • Clegg
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        #73
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        and ?
        I don't think there is any need for an 'and', but if you insist on having me elaborate:

        Your thread gives the impression that you consider age to be the most important factor when judging the ability of a fighter.

        However when it comes to Calzaghe you give the impression that age doesn't matter.

        This leads me to believe that you are being very selective with the criteria you apply and who you apply them to, in order to benefit an argument that suits a particular agenda, rather than acts at an attempt at an objective assessment of the situation.

        This also means that I think you're being hypocritical when you say I lack common sense because I apparently don't understand the aging process, when in fact I have shown a greater understanding of it than you, at least in this thread.

        Originally posted by Terrible...
        why is that ?
        I've no idea why you would choose those as your arguments. Feel free to enlighten me.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #74
          Originally posted by Clegg
          It looks as if you've gone and jumped to a conclusion again despite not knowing the reality of the situation. How many times is that now?

          There's no need for any archive searching; my memory serves me well enough, as abadger's seems to have served him, eh?

          i cant remember TBH i can remember omitting him from a list or 2 and telling others about using his name as a credential to make Jones resume look better though
          Oh right, so I guess it wasn't the best comparison for you to choose?[/QUOTE]

          your memory clearly does not serve u well does it cause u cant tell me what im suposed to have said can u and u have no evidence lol

          what has Abadger proved u fool that i said McCallum was an old man when he fought Jones and past his prime when he fought Toney thats right and i stand by that i dont see what your point is

          i cant recall using McCallums name to bolster Jones record infact if u go through the archive i guarantee u will find i told someone else not to do it

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            #75
            Originally posted by Clegg
            I don't think there is any need for an 'and', but if you insist on having me elaborate:

            Your thread gives the impression that you consider age to be the most important factor when judging the ability of a fighter.

            However when it comes to Calzaghe you give the impression that age doesn't matter.

            This leads me to believe that you are being very selective with the criteria you apply and who you apply them to, in order to benefit an argument that suits a particular agenda, rather than acts at an attempt at an objective assessment of the situation.

            This also means that I think you're being hypocritical when you say I lack common sense because I apparently don't understand the aging process, when in fact I have shown a greater understanding of it than you, at least in this thread.



            I've no idea why you would choose those as your arguments. Feel free to enlighten me.

            well u get the wrong impression



            i dont consider it the most important factor to judge a fighters credentials but i do these particular fighters based on what ive seen in their respective fights

            age does 'nt matter as much for Calzaghe as much as it does these fighters no why because 35 is old for a fighter and every extra year u add onto that is huge in terms of how much ability the fighter is able to retain and Hopkins happens to be 43 so its clear that Calzaghe age is much less of a factor when u breakdown these 2 fighters credentials and thats without viewing their recent fights where it clealry illustrates that Hopkins age is much more of a factor than Calzaghe's even the fight itself illustrated that infact if it was not for that factor Hopkins might very well have won the fight

            right thats that one out the way

            as for Jones i think its safe to say Jones is one of the most unconventional fighters of recent times why is he able to adopt such an unconventional style because he had tremendous reflexes & speed what is the first thing to diminish with age reflexes ,what punches hurt more the punches u dont see ,how many times has Jones been Koed late in his career twice once against a journeyman and he has also been hurt by Adjamu and possibly Hanshaw , 2 limited fighters wether u believe he has always been packing glass is irrelevant because before his reflexes were so good he was able to avoid punches and win fights and he had the stamina to carry out his game plan like i said there is a big difference in a year when u get to 30 + and Jones happens to be a few of those older than Calz

            u have only got to watch these fighters to see how much age factors into their performances in comparison to Calzaghe recent performances ,Hopkins is a lot older in Boxing terms and Jones has been knocked out twice and those KO were in 2004 it happens to be 2008 now
            Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 07-20-2008, 07:48 PM.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #76
              on reflection i dont know why i wrote that drawn out post when their recent performances illustrate that Calzaghe age is much less of a factor than Jones and Hopkins performances on top of that Hopkins is closer to 45 than 35/36
              and Jones is nearly 40

              like i said a year is a long time in Boxing a few is a helluva lot

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              • Dynamite Kid
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                #77
                Originally posted by abadger
                But you have.

                Anyway, I was only playing, don't be angry.


                what are talking about i have where is your proof ?

                ive already said i told someone else to take McCallum name of the list of Jones resume as one of his best wins if u dont believe me feel free to check

                if i have included McCallum name in Jones is resume before than it is only to use it as a yard stick when comparing to PBF when people think its sufficient to use people like Gatti who may have been youger but no question how shot he was

                show me evidence please

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                • abadger
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  what are talking about i have where is your proof ?

                  ive already said i told someone else to take McCallum name of the list of Jones resume as one of his best wins if u dont believe me feel free to check

                  if i have included McCallum name in Jones is resume before than it is only to use it as a yard stick when comparing to PBF when people think its sufficient to use people like Gatti who may have been youger but no question how shot he was

                  show me evidence please
                  There is zero chance of me trying to find that post, but you did do it. In fairness I've seen you post exactly as you say too, but it wouldn't be as funny if we went around being fair all the time now would it?

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    There is zero chance of me trying to find that post, but you did do it. In fairness I've seen you post exactly as you say too, but it wouldn't be as funny if we went around being fair all the time now would it?
                    did do what it seems the only think u can lay claim to is that i said Jones and Toney get no cred for beating McCallum how does that translate to me saying McCallum is a good win for Jones

                    it sounds like the total oposite to me lol

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                    • abadger
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Terrible...
                      did do what it seems the only think u can lay claim to is that i said Jones and Toney get no cred for beating McCallum how does that translate to me saying McCallum is a good win for Jones

                      it sounds like the total oposite to me lol
                      Terrible, I posted something like "McCallum = Bum" in relation to Jones and Toney and you posted a lengthy discussion of the merits of "The Bodysnatcher" and how he'd been avoided by loads of boxers. The clear implication was that it was a good win for both guys, you should accept it and move on. I don't want to discuss it more really, I was only trying to annoy you.

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