How well does Calzaghe have to beat Jones for you not to discredit him?

[IMDAZED]

Half of the Calzgahe fans are declaring Jones shot; has no chance, etc.

The other half are trying to hype him up so when Jones DOES look shot, they can be like, "Jones was an all-time great, he was coming off three very impressive wins, yada yada."

September 21st is gonna be hilarious.

[abadger]

Half of the Calzgahe fans are declaring Jones shot; has no chance, etc.

The other half are trying to hype him up so when Jones DOES look shot, they can be like, "Jones was an all-time great, he was coming off three very impressive wins, yada yada."

September 21st is gonna be hilarious.

Yup.

[rizkybizness]

Rizo, what's wrong with comparing Jones with Kessler and Lacy? It's not as if we're talking about prime Jones.

I understand we're not talking about Prime Roy Jones here but even now, they're incomparable.

[abadger]

I understand we're not talking about Prime Roy Jones here but even now, they're incomparable.

No way. Lets forget about Jeff Lacy, but Kessler would beat today's Roy for sure, I think. Even if he didn't, it would then surely be a close fight, and they would absolutely be comparable.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Paranoid sensitive ******* losers resort to strawmen. Yes, obviously it must be that I hate the Brits if I think you're a paranoid douche. Good job on avoiding the issue.

If you think Jones is NOT shot, then well you don't know what you're talking about it. Keep imagining the Jones never took "risks" in his prime and that he would have been KOed back then. Probably makes you feel better about your llove of all British fighters and nothing else.

No gay references? Theres a surprise.

I didnt say you hated Brits. But you've ovbiously got some underlying issues there.

Thats your opinion. You dont know what you're talking about most of the time so why should anybody care?

Imagining? Theres really no need for that. You keep imagining that Jones in his prime was a God who took on all comers and could never have been beaten unless he was completely shot.

[bsrizpac]

No way. Lets forget about Jeff Lacy, but Kessler would beat today's Roy for sure, I think. Even if he didn't, it would then surely be a close fight, and they would absolutely be comparable.

I'm not a Calzaghe fan and I think Jones is shot.

Also I think kessler is mad overrated. But he would probably beat Jones now. Jones quit against Tarver remember? He is DONE.

[Clegg]

Half of the Calzgahe fans are declaring Jones shot; has no chance, etc.

What do you think?

[rizkybizness]

No way. Lets forget about Jeff Lacy, but Kessler would beat today's Roy for sure, I think. Even if he didn't, it would then surely be a close fight, and they would absolutely be comparable.

I wouldn't be so sure about Kessler beating Roy FOR SURE. I'd most likely pick Kessler to win based solely on Roy's diminished stamina.

[IMDAZED]

What do you think?

I think if Jones was near unbeatable in his prime, it stands that he is now a good to very good fighter now. However, he's still falling - and growing old with each passing day. I loved how he looked against Hanshaw, not so much against Tito. We'll see what he has left on September 21st.

Hindsight, unfortunately, is the best sight.

[bsrizpac]

I wouldn't be so sure about Kessler beating Roy FOR SURE. I'd most likely pick Kessler to win based solely on Roy's diminished stamina.

Agreed. Basically stamina would be his undoing. In terms of skills, Kessler is pretty overrated compared to a Jones.