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  • Sir_Jose
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    #1

    DLH's resume and career

    I hear some people on here who like to hate on DLH. Tino likes to say he was "protected early in his career" and some others say he has avoided fights in the past few years.

    Im asking all of you haters to come out and me who he was protected from and who he has avoided?

    135
    Ruelas
    Hernandez
    Leija
    Molina

    140
    Gonzales
    Chavez

    147
    Whitiker
    Quartey
    Trinidad
    Mosley

    154
    Vargas
    Mosley

    160
    Bernard Hopkins

    Now lets look at this.

    Bernard Hopkins, Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Shane Mosley, Pernell Whitiker were ALL rated among the top ten p4p in the sport at that time.

    Gonzlaes was undeafeated and had made 10 defenses of his WBC Lightweight going into that fight.

    Hernandez was undeafeated and had made 8 defenses of his WBA title going into his fight with DLH

    Rafeal Ruelas was 43-1 and was the IBF champion going into this fight.

    Tino likes to say he was protected early in his career, but by the time he had 20 pro fights DLH had already fought Jon Jon Molina, Rafeal Ruelas and Genaro Hernandez.

    Some try and say he has avoided fights in the past few years, but when you ask them to name the fighters he's avoided they comeback with nothing.

    Lets look at a few of these guys he "avoided"

    Wink Wright- Up until Shane Mosley he had done NOTHING to even deserve a fight with DLH. Wright had a reputation for doing just enought to lose. Wright had lost all 3 times he had stepped up in competion before Mosley. Losses to Harry Simon, Julio Cesar Vasquez and Fernando Vargas.

    Antonio Mrgarito- People who claim DLH ducked him are just making themselves look flat out foolish. Margarito didn't even come onto the scene until he beat Andrew Lewis in 2003, but by 2003 DLH was already fighting at 154. Hell DLH had moved up to 154 in 2001. So please explain to me how DLH ducked him?

    Ricardo Mayorga- Again didn't even come onto the scene until he beat Vernon Forrest in 2003, DLH was already up at 154, Mayorga was quckly exposed by Spinks in his next fight.

    So please haters come on and try and tell what is wrong with his resume.
  • MetalVomit
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    #2
    Originally posted by jose
    I hear some people on here who like to hate on DLH. Tino likes to say he was "protected early in his career" and some others say he has avoided fights in the past few years.

    Im asking all of you haters to come out and me who he was protected from and who he has avoided?

    135
    Ruelas
    Hernandez
    Leija
    Molina

    140
    Gonzales
    Chavez

    147
    Whitiker
    Quartey
    Trinidad
    Mosley

    154
    Vargas
    Mosley

    160
    Bernard Hopkins

    Now lets look at this.

    Bernard Hopkins, Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Shane Mosley, Pernell Whitiker were ALL rated among the top ten p4p in the sport at that time.

    Gonzlaes was undeafeated and had made 10 defenses of his WBC Lightweight going into that fight.

    Hernandez was undeafeated and had made 8 defenses of his WBA title going into his fight with DLH

    Rafeal Ruelas was 43-1 and was the IBF champion going into this fight.

    Tino likes to say he was protected early in his career, but by the time he had 20 pro fights DLH had already fought Jon Jon Molina, Rafeal Ruelas and Genaro Hernandez.

    Some try and say he has avoided fights in the past few years, but when you ask them to name the fighters he's avoided they comeback with nothing.

    Lets look at a few of these guys he "avoided"

    Wink Wright- Up until Shane Mosley he had done NOTHING to even deserve a fight with DLH. Wright had a reputation for doing just enought to lose. Wright had lost all 3 times he had stepped up in competion before Mosley. Losses to Harry Simon, Julio Cesar Vasquez and Fernando Vargas.

    Antonio Mrgarito- People who claim DLH ducked him are just making themselves look flat out foolish. Margarito didn't even come onto the scene until he beat Andrew Lewis in 2003, but by 2003 DLH was already fighting at 154. Hell DLH had moved up to 154 in 2001. So please explain to me how DLH ducked him?

    Ricardo Mayorga- Again didn't even come onto the scene until he beat Vernon Forrest in 2003, DLH was already up at 154, Mayorga was quckly exposed by Spinks in his next fight.

    So please haters come on and try and tell what is wrong with his resume.

    If I could give you more karma, i would. Down with the Oscar haters, he backs down from no one, and went from 130 to 160 pounds to fight the greatest middleweight of this era.

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    • m00ks
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      #3
      couldn't win when it mattered

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      • MetalVomit
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        #4
        Originally posted by m00ks
        couldn't win when it mattered
        you gotta admit that he beat Trinidad and won the second Mosely bout. No matter what is official, we all "know" who won those two fights.

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        • m00ks
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          #5
          Originally posted by GodzHand
          you gotta admit that he beat Trinidad and won the second Mosely bout. No matter what is official, we all "know" who won those two fights.
          He didn't win cuz he ran, that's why he LOST. Second Mosely fight was arguable. Sturm was a contraversey. You see where I'm going..

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          • abdiel2k3
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            #6
            Originally posted by GodzHand
            you gotta admit that he beat Trinidad and won the second Mosely bout. No matter what is official, we all "know" who won those two fights.
            you are correct sirr
            i have no problem givin mosley the 1st fight
            it was a very close one
            but i do think that mosley did enough to pull out the win

            With trinidad
            yes he gave away the last 3 rounds
            but i think he had a solid enough early lead

            With sturm same thing
            i had him building a nice lead and the last championship rounds were close where i had him pullin them out based on combinations

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            • Tha Greatest
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              #7
              ya

              oscar beat mosley twice and trinidad
              but i'd have to say he lost to sturm even though i love oscar more then anyone
              i have to say he only lost is 2 last fights


              Jose dont forget he fought Arturo Gatti another great fighter

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              • vB Martin
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                #8
                I don't argue that DLH fought everyone who stood in front of him, but he was definitely handed some decisions along the way, including Sweetpea, Quartey and Sturm. Richard Steele deducted points without warnings from Oba Carr an put him in the position where he had to forego defense, which was his greatest weapon.
                I think he won against Tito and Mosely II, but I always looked at that as Karma biting him in the ass.

                I think the best thing that Sturm did in the fight against DLH wasn't constantly pounding him with the telephone pole jab of his, it was dancing away in the last few seconds of the round so DLH couldn't showcase the little pit-a-pat "punching" flurries that stole so many rounds for him throughout his career. That was masterful ring generalship on Sturm's part. Kudos to his corner for telling him to do that.

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                • julDilla
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                  #9
                  and also that beating he gaved Gatti

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                  • dempseyfire
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                    #10
                    A great fighter. To say he got a 'gift' against Quartey and didn't beat Trinidad is ridiculous. He took on all comers. People need to get off the fact that he's good looking and isn't a trash talker. He made a career out of beating up trash talkers . . . (Tito, Vargas etc.)

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