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the win vs judah to cotto only showed me he could hang with fighters of that level if skill.nothing else.the quintana win was a much better one,and if quintana wasn't a ****ing moron [and done what he'd done in the first fight vs williams he would've won it.he found williams's kryptonite and toss it away]he would've beaten williams again and everyone would agree.
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REALITYA reigning champ elects to fight a legendary, but somewhat inactive 34 year old ex-champ at a higher weight. That fight will make HUGE money. He is labeled a ducker and a coward.
Another reigning champ elects to fight a legendary, but somewhat inactive 43 year old ex-champ at a higher weight. That fight will make decent, but not huge, money. NSB posters defend that decision vigorously.
Yeah. OK.- A reigning champ elects to fight a legendary, but somewhat inactive 34 year old champion 2 full classes above his optimum fighting weight.
- The fight represents the end goal of a decade's hard work and dedication for the reigning champ moving up, in both career and financial terms.
- 75% of NSB posters label him a ducker and a coward and dismiss the legendary 34 year old as a deteriorated, shot, washed-up shadow of his former self.
PREDICTION- 18 months later, another reigning champ elects to fight an even more deteriorated, shot, washed-up version of the same legendary ex-champ at his own optimum fighting weight.
- The fight makes good financial and career sense, representing both the biggest payday of the reigning champ's career so far and an opportunity to cross over into the sporting big time by beating the legendary ex-champ in his publicized career swansong.
- 75% of NSB posters defend that decision vigorously.
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REALITY- A reigning champ elects to fight a legendary, but somewhat inactive 34 year old champion 2 full classes above his optimum fighting weight.
- The fight represents the end goal of a decade's hard work and dedication for the reigning champ moving up, in both career and financial terms.
- 75% of NSB posters label him a ducker and a coward and dismiss the legendary 34 year old as a deteriorated, shot, washed-up shadow of his former self.
Lol, Floyd wasn't fighting top welterweight comp. Cotto is. That is the difference. I had no problem with him taking the DLH fight. It do have a problem with him fighting Ricky Hatton instead of taking on a worth welterweight contender though. He made a mega payday, he should have defended hisv title against someone who actually campained at 147 more than once and said it was not his optimum weight. THAT is my biggest criticism of Floyd.Comment
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Lol, Floyd wasn't fighting top welterweight comp. Cotto is. That is the difference. I had no problem with him taking the DLH fight. It do have a problem with him fighting Ricky Hatton instead of taking on a worth welterweight contender though. He made a mega payday, he should have defended hisv title against someone who actually campained at 147 more than once and said it was not his optimum weight. THAT is my biggest criticism of Floyd.[/QUOTE]
Like who?
Mosley? He would have been called old and past his prime
Cotto? Best win was Judah, wasn't proven yet ("green")
Margarito? He lost to Williams in July and DOES NOT have a better resume then Hatton.
Cintron? Had already gotten humiliated by Margarito
You're telling me you'd rather see Floyd Mayweather vs Ortay Urkal (Who was in the top 10 at the time) then Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton?
Ricky Hatton:
-Undefeated
-#8 p4p
-Had 8 weeks this time to get used to 147 (which he did) insted of like 10 days
-Good resume
-Future Hall of Famer (imo)
Ricky Hatton fit in at Welterweight.
Another thing I don't know why you're complaining. You got to see Cotto vs Mosley, a good fight in which Cotto proved himself as the #1 contender. Hatton-Mayweather was a good fight too.Comment
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Lol, Floyd wasn't fighting top welterweight comp. Cotto is. That is the difference. I had no problem with him taking the DLH fight. It do have a problem with him fighting Ricky Hatton instead of taking on a worth welterweight contender though. He made a mega payday, he should have defended hisv title against someone who actually campained at 147 more than once and said it was not his optimum weight. THAT is my biggest criticism of Floyd.
In your mind, is welterweight Floyd Mayweather, Jr's optimum weight?
Thanks in advance for your honest response.Comment
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The same Judah that Mayweather would've stopped if it hadn't been for an unscheduled interval? A washed-up Mosley? Alfonso ****ing Gomez?Lol, Floyd wasn't fighting top welterweight comp. Cotto is. That is the difference. I had no problem with him taking the DLH fight. It do have a problem with him fighting Ricky Hatton instead of taking on a worth welterweight contender though. He made a mega payday, he should have defended hisv title against someone who actually campained at 147 more than once and said it was not his optimum weight. THAT is my biggest criticism of Floyd.
See? The **** cuts both ways.
Now get real.
Margarito is the first massive welterweight test of the kind you're talking about for Cotto.
The first.
Cotto is in his 2nd and most suited weight class.
Mayweather was in his 4th and 5th weight classes, operating above his optimum fighting weight against formidable comp in Judah, Baldomir and De La Hoya.
That --- combined with the mooted Cotto-De La Hoya fight likely being held at Cotto's weight against an even more washed-up version of the same fighter people say was too washed-up to credit Mayweather for fighting --- is the difference.
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Lol, Floyd wasn't fighting top welterweight comp. Cotto is. That is the difference. I had no problem with him taking the DLH fight. It do have a problem with him fighting Ricky Hatton instead of taking on a worth welterweight contender though. He made a mega payday, he should have defended hisv title against someone who actually campained at 147 more than once and said it was not his optimum weight. THAT is my biggest criticism of Floyd.
Like who?
Mosley? He would have been called old and past his prime
Cotto? Best win was Judah, wasn't proven yet ("green")
Margarito? He lost to Williams in July and DOES NOT have a better resume then Hatton.
Cintron? Had already gotten humiliated by Margarito
You're telling me you'd rather see Floyd Mayweather vs Ortay Urkal (Who was in the top 10 at the time) then Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton?
Ricky Hatton:
-Undefeated
-#8 p4p
-Had 8 weeks this time to get used to 147 (which he did) insted of like 10 days
-Good resume
-Future Hall of Famer (imo)
Ricky Hatton fit in Welterweight perfectly.[/QUOTE]
I would have like to have seen him take on better comp than a very good lightwelter, an old sharmba who never did anything at 147, and a crappy ass Baldomir. Judah was his only decent fight the whole time he was there. The only fighter who was proven against other welters.Comment
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