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  • #51
    Originally posted by WESS View Post
    ooooooo, SOOOO that's why your VAGINA was hurt.... your on AA's nuts.... lol... I get it now... Sorry dude I don't see that happening... How can a little 5'9 with NO reach beat a taller, harder punching guy that will kill him with jabs all night and probably break is JAW (again) If Miranda did it.. PAV would knock his head off....... good try thogh... but hey I do want to see the fight... I think it will be good.... at least for PAV it will be.. I would much rather see him face Joe Calzaghe...
    There is two sides to every story, remember both fighter draw up a plan before they step in the ring. Either way AA-Pavlik makes for a much more fan/action-friendly match then does Pavlik-hopkins. When was the last time that Hopkins truly delivered like he used to?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Melly-Mel View Post
      wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
      The length of time it took you to respond tells me that you are assuming without inspection.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ragingvic View Post
        Pavlik beat Edison Miranda and Jermain Taylor. AA beat Miranda and AAs Taylor is Pavlik, who does not seem to have plans for fighting him. All other names on both their records are useless. But if you truly wanted to compare opponent for opponent Arthur has fought the better opposition. Again no superstars are involved and this does not include Taylor. Either way I am a huge fan of both these guys and really want to see them fight it out. I wish Pavlik would force both Arum and Hopkins to retire after he runs over BHOP. Maybe then we could see the fights we want, not Pavlik-Bhop/Williams, Pacman-Diaz/soto/any other guaranteed win.
        I'm not looking at there career.. I'm putting AA next to PAV... when you look DOWN at AA you see a little guy that will just get punched in the face with jabs by the much BIGGER guy with a reach advantage and is stronger. AA will need to get on the inside but PAV will put him on the ropes and KO this guy in the middle rounds. Both are good. PAV is just the bigger man that has the advantages. I don't even see how you would say other wise. IMO JT would take AA's best shot and would beat AA... and PAV destroyed JT.... The real question is can PAV beat a guy (joe calzaghe) with NO power and all speed/endurance that only fights to take it to a 12 UD by just simply swinging the arms in mixed directions to impress the judges for the win... that's his real test...

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        • #54
          Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post
          tcnr soul jah & mspiegelo.... do you guys think bernard won that fight???

          yes or no... simple question....
          yes or no???

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ragingvic View Post
            The length of time it took you to respond tells me that you are assuming without inspection.
            Compare their opponents and explain how AA has fought better opposition.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ragingvic View Post
              There is two sides to every story, remember both fighter draw up a plan before they step in the ring. Either way AA-Pavlik makes for a much more fan/action-friendly match then does Pavlik-hopkins. When was the last time that Hopkins truly delivered like he used to?
              YES but didn't we already cover that topic in here... AA has a MANDO.... remember?????? So no point in that theory.... but I would have loved for it to take place instead of HOP, who wouldn't?????... but as you see it wont happen as of right now....

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              • #57
                supongo que paul williams no me quiere contestar ni el otro tampoco....

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ragingvic View Post
                  The length of time it took you to respond tells me that you are assuming without inspection.
                  i know both thier resumes, no need to examine. your wrong! vic!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    I'm not looking at there career.. I'm putting AA next to PAV... when you look DOWN at AA you see a little guy that will just get punched in the face with jabs by the much BIGGER guy with a reach advantage and is stronger. AA will need to get on the inside but PAV will put him on the ropes and KO this guy in the middle rounds. Both are good. PAV is just the bigger man that has the advantages. I don't even see how you would say other wise. IMO JT would take AA's best shot and would beat AA... and PAV destroyed JT.... The real question is can PAV beat a guy (joe calzaghe) with NO power and all speed/endurance that only fights to take it to a 12 UD by just simply swinging the arms in mixed directions to impress the judges for the win... that's his real test...
                    You are def convinced in you opinion but you theory relies on AA having weak defense which is wrong he Probably has the best defense in MW today, second you assume AA a stationary target which he is not. He has fought taller fighters and proved he can get on the inside in the past, obviously none of these guys were Pavlik. I am not saying AA would win, but I am saying this fight is a LOT more competitive then you give it credit for. I still think Cal does not have the chin to take more then 20 Pavlik shots.

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                    • #60
                      Hate to see this is PPV.

                      Its lose lose situation for Pavlik. If he wins he wont get any credit and if he does some how get a loss its going to be a huge setback. Pavlik is a middleweight, thats where he should fight. This going up and back down stuff isnt good for him. If he goes up a weight class and a half, I doubt he ever comes back down where he should be.

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