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  • Randall_Hopkirk
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    #11
    Originally posted by deanrw
    I don't know if Wlad has that bad of a chin actually. The guys that did manage to stop him were hard punchers when Wlad was a more reckless fighter. He got caught a couple times. **** Happens and he seems to have learned from his mistakes.

    If you can say anything negative about Wlad, is that once he is hurt, he seems to need a good amount of time recovering, but that could have been due to stamina issues.

    Lewis got cold ****ed himself a couple of times, and nobody would argue that he was a good champion.

    Foreman got stopped
    Frazier got stopped
    Holmes got stopped
    Tyson got stopped
    Holyfield got stopped
    Bowe basically got stopped, although not official.

    Why Wlad gets singled out I have no idea.

    Good fighters sometimes get knocked out. It is as simple as that. I give Wlad credit for learning from those losses and coming back to be a better fighter. Not many have done that.
    Yeah but he's scared stiff of getting hit, even to the detriment of his attacking instincts. Ruiz is a similar case, after almost getting killed by Tua he reverted into a spolier, the previous KO staying with him throughout the rest of his career. Wlad's career is overshadowed by his losses and the way he fights suggests those setbacks are on his mind every minute he's in the ring.

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    • deanrw
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      #12
      Originally posted by Randall_Hopkirk
      Yeah but he's scared stiff of getting hit, even to the detriment of his attacking instincts. Ruiz is a similar case, after almost getting killed by Tua he reverted into a spolier, the previous KO staying with him throughout the rest of his career. Wlad's career is overshadowed by his losses and the way he fights suggests those setbacks are on his mind every minute he's in the ring.
      Yes he is a more cautious fighter, as he should be. That could also be due to Stewart, it is hard to say. His safety first approach has served him well though and has been successful. He has built up a fine career when many thought it may have been over years ago. He may not always be exciting, but he does do some very nice things in the ring.

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      • duffgun
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        #13
        Haye has a good resume at cruiserweight. He has never been Knocked down from a punch to the chin its always been around the top of his head where he gets hurt.

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        • Pugilistic™
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          #14
          Haye has the worser chin no doubt.

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          • Randall_Hopkirk
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            #15
            Originally posted by Precision
            Haye has the worser chin no doubt.
            show me a clip of Haye getting dropped due to a bad "chin" and i'll agree.

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            • the_godslayer
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              #16
              The fight against Mock was a long time ago, as was the Thompson fight. It is a well discussed topic that Haye used to have to heavily boil down to make the weight which would have affected his stamina and punch resistance.
              At HW Haye would not have to boil down so the logical assumption would be that his punch resistance would be better.
              Wlad is a hugger and has been stopped at the weight before and also IMO has stamina issues, makes for a great match up.

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              • Pugilistic™
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                #17
                Originally posted by Randall_Hopkirk
                show me a clip of Haye getting dropped due to a bad "chin" and i'll agree.
                His loss to thompson was due to his stamina no doubt and his the knockdown he suffered against mock was a temple shot but to be fair mock ain't exactly a puncher. he was also dropped by Mormeck but he has got decent pop.

                In comparing Wlad's chin with Hayes, klitschko's is better.

                Klitschko has only been stopped by two big punchers in brewster and sanders who are heavyweights and his loss to puritty was due to his stamina.

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                • daggum
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                  #18
                  p4p its katsidis.

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                  • T-97
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    No bias in that post.
                    Non at all

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                    • sparked_85
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                      #20
                      Wlad is terrified of getting hit.

                      Haye gets hit and knows his chin is terrible.

                      I'm voting Wlad because he has no confidence in that **** whatsoever.

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